Life Liberty and the Pursuit
Welcome to the Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit podcast. Come join Eric and Matt who are freedom-loving, meat-eating, gun-shooting American guys as they discuss a broad spectrum of topics ranging from States' rights, culture, and the 2nd Amendment to scotch, bourbon, and cigars. Eric & Matt are both former US Army combat veterans who served together while deployed to Iraq during OIF III. Eric is most notable for his YouTube channel Iraqveteran8888 which has over 2.75 million subscribers currently as well as his outspoken and no-compromise stance regarding the 2nd amendment. Matt, founded Ballistic Ink, a branding and merchandising company that serviced 2A content creators and the firearms industry. He also is a partner of Alliance jiujitsu Roswell located in Roswell GA and trains daily and competes regularly. He is very passionate about the 2nd amendment and freedom. Come along for the ride!
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The battle for the Second Amendment isn't just happening in courtrooms and legislative chambers—it's raging within our own community. This eye-opening episode dives deep into what's truly challenging gun rights in America today.
We begin by exploring how different perspectives within the gun community shape our approach to advocacy. From dedicated hunters focused on public land access to everyday carriers concerned with self-defense rights, these varied viewpoints can either strengthen or fracture our collective voice. The fundamental misunderstanding of rights versus privileges emerges as a critical issue, with many Americans—even those not inherently anti-gun—struggling to grasp that constitutional rights shouldn't require government permission.
Political realities present their own challenges. Republican inaction often proves just as damaging as Democratic opposition, with campaign promises routinely falling short when it comes to advancing pro-gun legislation. We dissect real examples of how this plays out in Congress and examine the importance of politicians who demand accountability through individual votes rather than omnibus packages.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when we consider emerging technologies like drones and their implications for the Second Amendment. As warfare evolves, should our understanding of "the right to bear arms" evolve with it? Meanwhile, recent legal victories through the Bruen decision have provided powerful tools for challenging unconstitutional restrictions, demonstrating that persistent advocacy yields results.
Whether you're a lifelong gun owner or simply concerned about constitutional freedoms, this episode offers valuable insights into the complex forces shaping gun rights today. Join us as we cut through the noise and focus on what really matters: preserving dangerous freedom in an increasingly controlled world.
Welcome back everybody. This is Eric and Matt and this is Life, liberty and the Pursuit, your beacon of freedom and the American way of life. Tune in every Monday for a new episode as we dive into the world of liberty and what makes our country great.
Speaker 2:All right, welcome back everybody. This is Eric and Matt here with LLP and we've got another great episode here for you today. It's been a fantastic week and we're ready to be back in the saddle getting out some more content for you guys here. The podcast is growing, doing well. We're getting our wind in our sails again and I'm happy that everybody's back and hope you've all had a great week. Yep, what's up?
Speaker 3:How's things been going for you? Dude, weekend was great. Spent the weekend down at Perry, georgia. I was at a two-day wrestling tournament down there, daughter was wrestling and it was just a great weekend overall, beating everybody. Yeah, she did really well. She went eight and two for the weekend. She got silver in the individuals and then spent Saturday and Sunday just dueling other teams. If you guys ever wrestle and you've been on team duels, it's a little bit of a different experience. It's kind of a way to take an individual sport and make it a team sport. So you're wrestling as a team, so you'll bring 15, in this case, girls, so it was a girls wrestling team. It's like 15 girls, one for every weight division and then you battle other teams and then every single match is a finals match and then you battle other teams and then every single match is a finals match.
Speaker 2:So you know, just like you were mentioning jujitsu in the uh in the in, you know. You know in the previous episodes we were talking about how when you go to somebody else's, you know dojo, you know you're going to get in there and they're going to you're going to be have a target on your back. I would imagine that's the same type of thing. When different teams are going going at each other, they relish in the opportunity to wrestle people that are not on their own team, that they don't train with, because then that teaches you other people's techniques and you learn it's better to compete against people you never compete with, it's true, and it becomes a very stylistic matchup.
Speaker 3:So you'll see different wrestling. Academies have different styles of wrestling, so it really does become like oh, this style. It's like those old Kung Fu movies where they're like oh, snake style versus crane style, and it's weak against tiger style. So you get to see different styles of wrestling. Some people are like riders. They like to ride on the top. Some people wrestle from the bottom. They're very tricky. Some people they're really good at takedowns so they don't even ride you, so they'll take you down, let you up and they take you down again and they just tech fall you that way. So yeah it's, you get to see a little bit of everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know that's great for the individual competitors because they're learning. You know everyone's different styles and then whatever style of wrestling they wind up taking on ends up being sort of a mashup of everything that everybody's doing Exactly. Nothing wrong with that. That's martial arts in a nutshell, isn't it? I mean, you're taking a little bit from when you lose. You take something from that loss. You go oh, why did I lose? And you go ah, I know that trick now?
Speaker 3:Well, that's the saying. Whenever you do lose, the first thing someone will tell you when you come off the mat was like hey, you don't lose, you win or you learn, and that's it, that's right, that's right, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, we're going to get into today's show and so we're going to be taking some of your comments here today. I put a little quick message out on Twitter and I asked you guys to tell me what you think is challenging the Second Amendment community the most, or really just the preservation of the Second Amendment in general. Is it legislation? Is it the government moving too slow? Is it our own community? I mean, what exactly is holding up the Second Amendment the most? That's what today's show is about. So we're going to talk a lot about guns and I'm sure we're going to talk a little bit about some laws and government overreach and everything in between. Before we get started on today's show, I would like to thank the show's first sponsor, and that is MyPatriotSupply.
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Speaker 3:you know something like that so quick, quick story about that. Um, when we were in the army and we'd go out on these like ruck marches and you'd be out there for like, even like, when it's like three or four days in july where it's extremely hot, you had to, uh, tote these five gallon jerry cans plastic jerry cans, yeah, and if you leave those out in the sun they get hot. Like you want some hot water, leave a five gallon jerry can plastic one in the sun. Well, you can take a shower with that. Like you have your battle buddy, like open the top and pour it over you and man, you are absolutely right, eric.
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Speaker 2:yeah yep and, and it goes down really quick because it's nice and hot, oh yeah, okay. So, getting into the beans and bullets of the show, you know we want to just sort of extrapolate and just kind of spitball some ideas about what we view to be the biggest challenges that the Second Amendment as a community, as a group of people that represents a certain type of lifestyle, and in a couple of future episodes we're going to go over some other things related to it. But I want this to be about what our perceptions are, and everyone is different. If you ask a hunter what he thinks the biggest challenges to the Second Amendment are well, someone who's a hardcore hunter, maybe they live in the middle of nowhere and when they go to town there's hardly nobody there and they don't really think of guns as like, oh, I'm going to have a firearm to face a potential threat, or I'm not worried about carrying a gun to town because no one in my town is a threat and everyone's harmless and no crime ever happens here. You live in a very high trust society, a crime-free society, and your only exposure to guns is that you hunt and that's it.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, a hunter's view of what challenges are going to be to the Second Amendment might be. Well, the government's selling off public land or closing public land to hunting, or hey, what hunting regulations are in place that affect me as a hunter? You know what type of gun regulations are in place that might affect what type of guns I can use to hunt, with right Magazine restrictions, caliber restrictions, so on and so forth. So yeah, the challenges a hunter might face are quite different from, let's just say, maybe you're an advanced gun collector, okay, maybe you love all different types of evil black rifles and you love everything. Like me. You know I'm a well-rounded gun owner who. I love black powder, I love machine guns, I love full auto. I love, you know, modern evil black stuff. I love AKs all the way down to match locks and cannons.
Speaker 2:So for me, the second amendment is much more encompassing to my overall view of what I feel it is to be a well-rounded gun owner. Now, does that mean that I look down on someone who only cares about hunting? I don't. I get it. If you love to hunt, by all means hunt, that's great, I love to hunt.
Speaker 2:But some of us are much more vested in the overall lifestyle of the Second Amendment, and what I mean by lifestyle is, yeah, many of us we carry every day, no matter where we go. We have blowout kits in our cars, we have a shotgun or a rifle we keep in our vehicle just in case. Like, yeah, we stage guns in our house. In case of an emergency, we can have a long gun on standby. We stage blowout kits in the house, we stage a hidden pistol somewhere in the cupboard, we are ready and we don't play around. And yet there are different types of people and how they view what the Second Amendment means to them. So therefore, there's going to be varying levels of attention that people give to the matter, based on their individual needs for what they use guns for.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would agree. It is a lifestyle and the problem that you run into is that those that don't live that lifestyle that's okay, but they also try to create rules and regulations and laws that force those that are living that lifestyle to no longer be able to live that lifestyle, to live the life that they're living because they want to feel safe. And that really falls into one of the issues that I see all the time and that is and I actually have this conversation a lot with people at our Jiu Jitsu Academy because, believe it or not, jiu Jitsu and firearms are very close, so a lot of people that train Jiu Jitsu also happen to like firearms. We do range days. We'll all go out as a team, as a school, and we all bring our guns and we go shooting at the range. And we have lots of police officers that train with us. We have lots of just regular civilians that never shoot. They get an opportunity to shoot because they're with people that have a lot of guns. And I get to have this conversation with students there and it's in passing, it's not like anybody's trying to indoctrinate anybody by any means, but the subject always comes up and I just ask a question and it's like why are you not against firearms, but why do you feel like there has to be so many steps in place in order to own a firearm?
Speaker 3:They have a really hard time understanding the difference between a right and a privilege. And they look at your right to bear arms and start trying to apply rules to it. And you can't do that. And one of the biggest things that they don't understand is pre-crime. They always try to look at the purchase of a firearm like, oh, you know that person is going to commit a crime, but how do you know? You can't do that. You can't assume pre-crime. You can't assume just because the person looks a certain way, or even go a step farther. They have a history of and this is the big one. They're like, oh well, this person always gets into fights, this person always gets into trouble, and then they go and buy a firearm. I mean, that is their right, they can do that. They do background checks, they do everything that they can, but you can't not sell them a firearm just based on the fact that you're not comfortable with that person owning a firearm. They have a right to do that. Yeah, what if that?
Speaker 2:person is getting beat up all the time and they're a victim and they want to have a firearm to potentially protect themselves, because maybe every time they've gotten jumped or beat up, it gets worse and worse and they're worried that the next time might be fatal, you know. So there's that process. I mean, just because a person is getting into fights all the time doesn't mean that they're the aggressor. They could be the victim, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they have to be comfortable with accepting the fact that you know there's dangerous freedom, that, um, you know there's dangerous freedom, like if you, you can't have, you can't have an extremely free society and at the same time, uh, assign a whole bunch of rules to what you can and can't do. You have to, you have to live and let live, um, and then another one is training requirements. This is something that a lot of just everyday people that's the first thing I'm they should make a, they should make training requirements. It's a right.
Speaker 3:As much as even if I always do 100 agree with you, which I don't I think everybody should train, at least train just to be familiar with the firearm. I in no way believe that you should have to train in order to purchase one, to exercise your second amendment, right, but that's always like the first or second thing. Oh, they should be training requirements, they should have to take a test. No, they shouldn't. No, it's just the way it is, like you have a right to own a firearm and, again, you have to be comfortable with dangerous freedom.
Speaker 2:Sure, you know, I think that there are certainly some very dangerous slippery slopes that are brought up a lot by by people who are on that side of the equation.
Speaker 2:You know, maybe they're not necessarily anti-gun, but they're not pro-gun either. Maybe they just try to apply a little bit of their logic to it and it doesn't always line up with our logic, and that's not a bad thing. Like I understand, if someone says oh well, we want, you know, stricter background checks, we want that. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I'm just saying that I understand and respect their opinion. I disagree with their opinion and I have very distinctive reasons for disagreeing with that opinion and I'm willing to hear anyone out and I will do my best to convince them that my way is the way. But at the end of the day, if that's their thought, that's their thought and that's okay, I will say that it's a slippery slope to allow the government to have the scrutiny. Anytime they have the scrutiny, they're going to weaponize that scrutiny. So if we say, well, mentally ill people can't own guns, well, who do you think is going to decide who's mentally ill?
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:It's going to be the government. And guess what? That pendulum is going to swing left and right every four years, or every eight years, however often that pendulum is going to swing left and right. And who do you think will then be given the keys to that kingdom, to that Pandorm's box, to be able to say oh, you're mentally defective. Well, you're mentally defective. Well, the left says more and more of these people are mentally defective than the right says oh, these people are mentally defective. Well, who's losing? The people are right, the average person who just wants to exercise the rights. They're losing. And the government is gaining, essentially a monopoly on violence.
Speaker 2:And I think there are a lot of people out there who they think, well, the government would never do any wrong, they're here to protect us, they're here to help us. And you know what? I think that a lot of people, they place too much faith in an organized government period, much less our own government. And then, okay, you turn on the social media feed, the news feed, or whatever. You pay attention to what's going on in the world and what do you end up seeing? You see all this stuff that's going on, and the government, it seems like they're just passing the buck along every time you turn around and there's always somebody is getting screwed in some way, shape or form and you think, man, do we really trust these people? You know whether you're left or right, you have to eventually go wait a minute. You realize what's going on. It's like we are continuously losing and they're continuously winning and it has the, the sort of the visibility is like. It's almost like you have this parasite class that they're clinging on to all of us and they're sucking all our resources off and and you know, eventually you go wait a minute like these people don't have our best interests in mind at all.
Speaker 2:And I know that's hard for a lot of people to believe because you know some people are. You know, maybe their great grandpa worked for the government and they're a third or fourth generation government employee. That's all they've ever known. Is their families worked for the government. Or maybe their family was police officers, maybe their family was all soldiers and that's what they've always done and they feel like it's their patriotic duty to continue what their grandpa did, their dad did. So I'm not going to discount that. I understand that people are patriotic and they view what they do. They feel like they are doing the right thing. They feel like they are doing the right thing. They feel like they are righteous and justified in their actions, and I'm not going to take that away from someone. They feel the way they feel.
Speaker 2:But the reality is again, you don't want someone having the key to Pandora's box to be able to tell someone what they should or should not do, or what they can and cannot do, and we should never allow a small group of people to make that determination. It should always be an individual right. The Second Amendment is first and foremost an individual right. It is not the place of the government to decide the extent in which you exercise your Second Amendment. Now, the Bruin decision, which was heavily brought on by help from the NRA and look, I'll give credit where it's due the NRA. They're trying to turn things around. Look, we owe the NRA, in part at least, for the Bruin decision. That is unequivocally true. Hate me or not, that's the truth.
Speaker 2:But the Bruin decision is a very important Supreme Court ruling because what it does is it tells the government hey, whatever laws you've passed in regards to the Second Amendment, it has to pass constitutional muster, with the historical analog of the Second Amendment going back to 1791, what regulations were in place in 1791? All right, whatever regulations were in place when the Second Amendment was adopted. Ultimately your laws have to kind of coincide with the original intent and spirit of the Second Amendment at the time of its founding, and that's a very hard thing to scrutinize. Okay, were there capacity restrictions in 1791? Nope. Were there prohibited persons? Some, but I don't think they want to know. Do you know who the prohibited people were in 1791? Take a guess.
Speaker 3:Who.
Speaker 2:Blacks, slaves. Black people couldn't own guns in 1791. So is that really the historical analog you want to use as your justification as to why you need weapons permits or why you need restrictions? But the left, they'll take that low road all day long. The state of New York, of all people, argued well, there were restrictions on certain people in 1791. Oh, which people? Well, slaves. So does that mean now that the state of New York views you as a citizen as no better than their slave? Regardless of the color of your skin, we're all slaves.
Speaker 2:Now that law, an oppressive law in New York does not just apply to a black person. Or there were laws that said Catholic people couldn't own guns, believe it or not. Well, you're not Catholic, you're not black, you're someone other than that, but it still applies to you. So they actually expanded that definition to include basically anyone they don't damn like. And that's the cruelty of gun legislation and what we have to fight now, what we deal with now. So the Bruin decision is a very important and distinctive decision that gives us a lot of teeth to kind of go. All right, we're going to challenge all this stuff in court. There are many states where assault weapons bans have been challenged and we're winning. Carry restrictions have been challenged and we're winning. Capacity restrictions and magazine restrictions have been challenged and we are winning because of the Bruin decision. So you see, constitutional carry is now the law in over 32 or 30 states or something, so quite a few.
Speaker 2:We'd like to see the remaining 20 get in on that. I mean, of course, it'd be nice to see maybe some federal legislation. So that would probably allow us to pivot to the conversation of inaction. So what would be one of the challenges that our own government puts on us? Inaction. The Republicans run on a pro-gun campaign. Oh, we're pro-gun, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. They may deliver 20% of what they say they're going to do, but the reality is, republicans generally sit on their hands when it comes to pro-gun legislation.
Speaker 3:Yep, I mean right now. Look what I believe what guns, total gun sales and NICS checks are like down tremendously, tremendously, which is always the case when the Republicans are in office. They inaction is the name of the game. They, you know gun owners know nothing good is going to happen, nothing bad is going to happen.
Speaker 1:It's just going to be the Nothing bad is going to happen.
Speaker 3:It's just going to be the same for the next four years and then we see what's going to happen.
Speaker 3:So if the Democrats start to make headway, if the Democrat and guys, this election year is going to be a very interesting election year. Trump this is his last. Well, they say theoretically, theoretically, his last. Well, they say Theoretically, theoretically, his last term. So it's up for grabs. He's not going to be rerunning. I don't think that Vance has it in him to make a run for the main office. So I think we're going to see some new blood, hopefully some younger blood. I mean not to get off subject, but we got a pretty old dude in there. He's up there with Biden in age now. It was like their neck and neck. He's coming into the same age that Biden was when he left office.
Speaker 2:Trump? Yeah Well, I'll tell you, he's got brass balls. You say what you want, but the man ain't afraid of conflict.
Speaker 2:He's not afraid to put himself out there, and there have been things about Trump that I've not agreed with the president, and I do not agree on everything. That's okay. We're not required to agree on everything. It's okay to disagree, and I think that's an important thing to remember within the Second Amendment community as well. We all have our differences of opinion on how to approach the issue at hand, how to solve the problems at hand. And do I agree with everything the president's done? No, I do not, but overall, I would say that I'm pretty proud of his track record and I think that he's doing a pretty solid job. Overall, I'm pretty happy Time will tell.
Speaker 3:I just wanted to circle back real quick to one thing and you said, because you brought something up that kind of like struck a chord with me when it came to Was it a dissonant chord? No, dissonant chord, no, um, it was regarding the uh with the police and government.
Speaker 1:You know doing the right thing, when you know, I know where this is going and I'm like thinking in my head.
Speaker 3:I'm like I know I have to say something about. You know, we want to believe that. We want to believe that, we want to believe, but statistically, by the books, by the numbers, it's not going to happen. They're going police, government will do what they're told to do and as citizens, we like to believe they're going to throw down their weapons and say, no, I'm not going to do it. That's illegal or that goes against the constitution. But 100% I'm telling you guys, you guys know this, you viewers and listeners know this to be true. It will not happen. If you look at just the history of every country that has enacted any type of, you know, police state or have any type of issues like that, they always do what they're told. Always, yeah, every single one. Let's look good on the list Venezuela, china, cambodia, vietnam, el Salvador, north and South Korea. Even here in America, when they had the whole COVID lockdown thing and the police were going through the streets and they were shooting at people on their front porch, like they're doing exactly what they're told to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And it you know as much as it pains me. I'd like to believe that people would do it, and they're not. They absolutely won't.
Speaker 2:Pain is a good word. Pain is a good word because it is a painful realization to come to you. Love your country. You're brought up a certain way as an American to be patriotic. Love your country, respect your flag, respect your veterans, respect law enforcement. And the problem is, if you do it, they stab you in the back.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know the ATF is going to show up and kill your dog and, you know, murder you in your sleep. Yeah, you know the ATF's going to show up and kill your dog and, you know, murder you in your sleep. That's not okay and I think a lot of us, we feel betrayed, we feel slighted, we feel like, hey, we're all on the same team here. We all fought for the same you know purpose that we thought we were fighting for. We all fought for what we thought was freedom and that that freedom extended to us to be able to not be under the scrutiny or boot of an overbearing, authoritarian type of government. We're supposed to avoid that type of thing by the type of system we have set up. We're a constitutional republic, we're supposed to have a representative government and you certainly don't see that with all the PACs that are funneling money into the government and who controls who, and you look at all the details of who's funneling the money where it's like well, are we even being represented anymore? So you know not to get on that grandstand, but the truth is is that a lot of people have begun and continued to have less and less faith in what our government even represents institutionally anymore, and it's not to say that someone is not a patriot or doesn't love their country.
Speaker 2:Loving your country is far different than loving your government. And you can love Beaver, cleaverville, small town America you grew up in, and your neighbors and your community. And you have the parades. There's all that sort of the visibility of patriotism that we see in a day-to-day basis in our community People helping each other, people doing the right thing by each other. A disaster comes around, people hand out cases of water. When we think patriotism, I think that's what we think of. We know which people like if our country were invaded or something boots on the ground type of situation. Now I'm being hypothetical here, but we know who would actually pick up a gun and fight and protect their country versus the people who they don't really, really truly understand the value of what we're even protecting here. So I think that's the kind of takeaway there. So earlier I alluded that we had some comments. Actually, now it's up to over 100 comments here on Twitter and basically I asked. So you want to read some comments?
Speaker 3:Sure go for it All right.
Speaker 2:So we'll read a few comments and I haven't gone through these yet, so I'm just going to sort of scroll through, okay, and I asked what do you think are the biggest battles we're fighting in terms of preserving and solidifying the Second Amendment? Lord Diannexus says space wizards. Okay, well, can't say I've seen any space wizards trying to take my guns away, but hey, that's cool. I haven't seen any space wizards trying to take my guns away, but hey, that's cool. Everything 2A says getting pro 2A news to people that aren't necessarily pro 2A Censorship, our reach is the biggest issue. You have anything to add to that? No, pretty good, yeah, I mean, the thing is, it's true, A lot of the anti-gunners, they don't really care what we have to say.
Speaker 2:They already have their minds made up and unfortunately, a lot of voters are also. I don't want to say they're low information people, because you know people, they care about what they care about. They're not making the Second Amendment a big enough issue on their voting record, as it really needs to be, and we actually have that problem even within the 2A community. Not enough gun owners get out and actually vote and register to vote and everything like that. So it's important. Okay. Brian LaFonte says hardware bans. It shouldn't be this much of a struggle to get the Supreme Court to say the most popular rifle and the most popular magazines are protected by the Second Amendment. Okay.
Speaker 2:I agree and I think they did agree on that for the most part the disgruntled patriot says there is no fight or debate. The Second Amendment is pretty clear, I agree. I agree Florida Rebel a little bit more of a doomsday type of view here. He says in all fairness, I think we already lost the 2A battle. I can understand why people think that way, but I respectfully disagree. I think we're making really good gains.
Speaker 3:I'll just add I think we've discussed this in previous episodes we are the strongest right now. The Second Amendment is the strongest right now than it's ever been outside of when they first formed the NFA. I mean before you could go and buy a machine gun at Sears.
Speaker 2:Or have it delivered to your front door.
Speaker 3:Right now we're fairly strong. Obviously we can. We can make improvements. We can always make headway. There's a lot of stuff we need to get back, but to to overlook the gains that we've made so far would be a bit disingenuous, and I think that it makes it harder to to argue in all seriousness with someone that's anti-gun. If you hold that stance, if you go up to somebody and say we haven't gained anything and we lost all of our two-way rights, that would be like you blatantly lying to someone's face and expecting them to believe you.
Speaker 2:Or they may say well, why should I care about the Second Amendment? If you feel like all hope is gone, then why should I care? Right, and that's the last thing you want someone to do. If you're bringing somebody into the fold, you want them to think hey, we're, we're gaining here.
Speaker 3:Okay, it's the fourth quarter, baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got to win, we're on we're on, we're on the four yard, but I want to read it because he took the time to type it. Dan says people not reading and understanding the Constitution, particularly not understanding that the Bill of Rights does not grant rights but restricts the government in combination with the federal government only having authority it was granted. People not reading their state constitutions, which often protect the right and may not require using the Very good points there. Sean says Again, we mentioned that inaction sometimes is even more damning than action.
Speaker 3:I will say that I love the comment about the state constitution, because the state constitution supersedes the federal constitution in the state. Now, once you travel outside of your state, you're beholden to your constitutional rights, your federal constitution rights. So I love that. I love it.
Speaker 2:Jeff says the GOP holdouts that aren't willing to do the work necessary to force back decades of overreach. Now that we finally have the numbers in Congress? Now, Jeff, to be fair, it's a very slim majority, Like two.
Speaker 3:Extremely slim.
Speaker 2:So, yes, all it takes is a couple of people to just to be holdouts. And I'll tell you what. Thomas Massey. Now I know a lot of people are unhappy with Thomas Massey. President Trump is not a fan of Thomas Massey.
Speaker 2:I'm very disappointed in the president's view of Congressman Massey because Thomas Massey wants every single bill to be voted on on a case-by-case basis, yes, individually. We should not be having these pork-laden bills full of 1,500, 2,000 pages that you know dang well, the representatives are not reading properly. We even have AI now that can paraphrase a lengthy bill into its juicy topics. They're not even willing to do that. These people are just voting by the party line and they're not actually taking the individual issues into account. And what we'd like to see and I know Congressman Massey would like to see, and I myself, I believe what Congressman Massey believes is that every issue should be voted on line by line.
Speaker 2:Here's the issue yay or nay? Raise your hand. It's simple. You have to have an established voting record to know who's who, and if you just have these pork laden bills, well, how do you know what they voted yay for? Maybe they voted yay for one tiny little spending area and the rest of that they don't even care about. They didn't vote yay because of maybe even the anti-gun part that was attached to it, but they wanted the good part that they actually are looking at, so that you have a false pretense for who's anti-gun and a false pretense for who's pro-gun, and that many of them don't even care about a gun-related topic. So that's the issue.
Speaker 3:We have to know who's who. That is the issue, and that's why Thomas Massey always gets kind of drawn as the bad guy because he's voting strictly on physical spending and budgets.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And if you try to throw that in there and he sees it, he's going to. Obviously he's just going to vote because he's so against. Just Well, he's a constitutionalist.
Speaker 2:He cares about fiscal responsibility.
Speaker 3:He's against frivolous spending of government funds? Yes, and he should be.
Speaker 2:Rufus says the battle needs to be for the hearts and minds of Americans, so they don't fall for the political propaganda. Very true, yes, yes, very true. The Second Amendment fight starts at the culture. Change the culture and, as such, you will change the direction of the politics that affect that culture. So Rufus is absolutely correct. Let's see there's a lot here. Robert Hedrick says none come to mind, which could be a battle in itself. Is there some legislation that managed to sneak in past all the other crazy stuff going on? Well, it's a possibility, donald John Herbert says. Ultimately, the government wants us disarmed. They'll dangle some minor winds in front of us with one hand while reaching around with the other hand to stab us in the back. So descriptive, you know.
Speaker 3:So descriptive, I love it, but he's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is absolutely right. No, reach around, that's right. Jack Marr says to me barrel length and carry laws. We've already seen armed civilians are better at responding to threats than police and have prevented many mass killings.
Speaker 3:There's been a few, like the guy with the church shooting. I believe he stepped out with his uh ar and he hit. He hit somebody um right.
Speaker 2:Steve lilliford.
Speaker 3:Yes, and then there was jack the guy with jack 45, yeah it was his name, I believe, mr dorsey.
Speaker 2:Yep, no, he had a 10 millimeter.
Speaker 3:Oh, even better oh yeah, and it was a head. Yes, all the way from across the room. Holy cow Repainted the walls on that one. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, I am laughing. More power to him. Jonas Cord says the biggest issue is people continuing to blame an inanimate object for criminality, instead of the individual using that object to intentionally harm others. Even in societies where they have no firearms, the criminals still find ways to carry. So true, oh my gosh, that's so true. Yeah, that is so true. I mean, look at the Democrats, they're bailing people out of prison.
Speaker 3:Yep, they're lowering cash bails to where you know. You have a quarter million dollar bail and you only need to put up 10. So these, these, these violent felons alleged, alleged are are bailing out at 2500 bucks.
Speaker 2:It's unheard of I mean there, there are heck a lot of good comments in here. Let's see, the Celtic Viking says our leaders, there are states that restrict your rights. The Supreme Courts in these states are basically activists that go with the narrative. It is broken at the highest levels and there needs to be sweeping change. A lot of this has happened in the last 10 years. There's hope, so it's very true.
Speaker 2:A lot of times these courts are packed with people that the Democrats know dang well are going to toe the line and they're going to use that political position as a bargaining chip or as a way to carry out their political will not necessarily the will of the people, and not necessarily something that coincides with the law and the Constitution and everything like that and the spirit of the law, especially as it pertains to our rights. I mean, we're not just talking something that is some platitude that is handed to someone. We're talking about the Second Amendment. It is a right that is enshrined for a reason. It is not to be questioned. Rights are rights. They are what they are, but yet they always seem to foul things up because of their political whims, and not so much that they're actually doing things the right way. Let's see.
Speaker 3:Well, I see a lot of I think a lot of these government officials, whether they're congressmen, women, senators, let's just say, uh, government officials, they live in an ivory tower, so they. The reason they aren't moved to make any of these changes is because it doesn't affect them directly, and a good example of that is I believe, I believe it was Corey Scott, the Senator from New Jersey. I could be wrong, but I believe it was Corey Scott got his assistant or driver, got caught with a firearm at the capitol building. Now that's a serious offense. That's like federal prison for a normal civilian to walk into. To one.
Speaker 3:It shouldn't be a crime well, we're, we're, we're just going through what happened. Washington dc extremely like locked down the, so much so that the police turn their guns in at the end of every night. So the the dc capital police, they get to work, they draw their firearm, they get off shift, they put their firearm away at the police station and they go home. Civilian, forget about it, never gonna have a firearm, except for, uh, mr dick heller over there it's certainly not easy.
Speaker 3:I mean you can get a dc carry permit, but it's extremely yeah it's very hard and that's something that and most definitely not allowed in the capital, on capital grounds or the capital, and they could totally just tell you no for any reason, and it's almost like you have to know the judge, you have to know someone like you.
Speaker 2:You almost have to be connected and know the right person.
Speaker 3:But this guy's assistant or driver, whichever it was got caught carrying in the Capitol building. Why? Because the rules don't apply to them. They don't feel they don't have to jump through the same hoops that the normal people do, so why would they need to make any change?
Speaker 2:Why would they need to make any headway on the second amendment when that doesn't apply to them? They can just do what they want. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, um, trying to think of that movie that had so it was the movie with kevin costner and sean connery the dispend dispendables. What was the name of that movie? It was like a mob movie. It was like back in the 30s and they, they were going after it during Prohibition. Oh, what was?
Speaker 3:the name of that movie Untouchables, untouchables. Yeah, it was the Untouchables.
Speaker 2:Bro. All right, so there's a scene in that movie where it was either one of the federal officers or one of the police, or it was one of the people who was on this crack team of people that were cracking down on Prohibition. Yeah, but was it Dillinger, or was it? Who was it they were going after? Who was that big mob boss they were going after?
Speaker 3:I'm not sure of the exact guy. I just know that it was all about Prohibition. Yeah, like Gotti or whoever it was like.
Speaker 2:The mob bosses are going after. Anyway, in the movie I digress there's a scene where the guy gets caught with a gun. And this is one of the crooks, one of the bad guys gets caught and he's got a gun. Of course this is like I think it might have been New York City and of course that's a big no-no and has been for a long time. Oh, he's like, oh, I've got a permit for that and they pull it out and sure's a. It's a signed like affidavit from the judge, you know, saying that this guy is allowed to have a gun. He had to give him his gun back and it's crazy, like you know dang well the reason that that guy was able to get signed off by the judge just because he was, you know, involved in that underbelly of crime, um, and everything like that. So it's just crazy like you always go back to that movie and you think, yeah, anyone, if you just know the right people and you're well connected enough, you can get a permanent security Grease, the right palms, that's right.
Speaker 2:Grease the right palms. All right, a couple of more of these comments here and we'll move on, but I wanted to read some because you guys all really made some very good points and I wanted to share as many of them as possible. Cory.
Speaker 3:Booker. I apologize, I'm going to make a quick correction it was Cory Booker, from New Jersey.
Speaker 2:Oh, cory Booker. Well, he's a huge hypocrite. That guy has always been a huge hypocrite. All right, anthony Davis brings up a really good point. He said drones and optic systems controlled by Palantir that they're using in Gaza. He said drones and optic systems controlled by Palantir that they're using in Gaza. Whoo, now I don't really know anything about the Gaza situation in regards to Palantir, but I did a whole episode on Palantir and how this sort of deep snooping and deep surveillance state is a very dangerous state for us as Americans.
Speaker 2:And you mentioned drones and it's so crazy how you notice that they're kind of laxing back on some of the long-standing gun restrictions, right. They're kind of talking about laxing up on the short barreled rifle stuff sbrs, sps, suppressors right. So we fought really hard this year to try to get these items completely removed from the NFA. But starting in January, you still have to register the given item but there'll be no tax stamp. So they did get the tax stamp removed. So now you can have suppressors with no tax stamp, and I believe that does extend to SBRs and SBSs as well. So at least the $200 tax stamp is now out of the picture. So we're still fighting things on that front.
Speaker 2:However, you notice that they are trying to ease up and make it easier for people to obtain those types of items. Well, why would they care less about that now than they did 20 or 30 years ago? Why do they view, let's just say, a person with a suppressor is not so much an assassin anymore, it's just your average person who just wants to shoot quieter, right? Why is that the case now, versus the way it was 30, 40 years ago? Okay, why is that the case? Well, reason is like he mentioned the drones. So what can you really reasonably do to combat a massive swarm of drones that wants to try to drop a bomb on you? So it's almost like they know they have people outgunned and they don't really talk about it.
Speaker 2:But if you go to these big conferences, you go to these big, especially law enforcement seminars and military seminars where they're talking about tactics, weapons and what they really want to try to focus on the most. The only thing that they're talking about right now is drones and how to prevent getting killed. Quit getting killed by them. That's it how to combat drones and how to make drones more deadly. That's all they care about right now is drones and how to stop them and how to use them better.
Speaker 3:That's it, you know, what I find they're not talking about machine guns.
Speaker 2:They're not talking about grenades and rocket launchers. They're talking about drones, because drones are the talk of the town.
Speaker 3:It's the new, new and you know. What I find funny is that you know, despite what's going on in Ukraine and Russia, between Ukraine and for finding the simplest solution to the most complex problems, and this goes back to when, you know, the Russian and US astronauts were going into space and they were up in space floating around in the Mir space station or whatever, like the different space. They were like cohabitating right. And America had spent, spent, you know, millions of dollars on that little space pin, those famous little space pins with their pressurized ink capsules so it could write in space, because gravity doesn't allow the the ink to flow yeah and america's like, no, we gotta, we gotta make this high speed, cool pin.
Speaker 3:So they the astronaut gets up in space and they start like, yeah, check out this pen man, this thing will write in space. And they start like, yeah, check out this pen, man, this thing will write in space, it'll write upside down. It's pressurized and the Russian cosmonaut is like why don't you just use a pencil? You know like you don't even need a pen, you just use a pencil, write it with a pencil and you're good to go.
Speaker 2:Now in my mind. Now listen, there might be one logistical reason why you might want to have a pen that can write in space versus a pencil. You got to sharpen the pencil, so think about it. Do you want all that dust and do you want those debris floating around? So it's like maybe in their mind they're thinking they need something that's not going to produce dust or debris. You could clog the instrument cluster. So it's like there's an engineering reason for thinking about why they do things. But of course, the Russians are like we'll just use a pencil.
Speaker 3:And then to fast forward, freaking 70 or 80 years to now, these high-speed drones coming in and they're trying to figure out how they're going to defeat these drones. And now they're just taking nets and hanging nets everywhere defeat these drones. And now they're just taking nets and hanging nets everywhere. So these drones are flying into these nets and they're getting caught like you're catching a butterfly, yeah, and they're getting tangled up in, like like the most low-cost solution you'll see, like a thousand dollar drone just get tangled up in nets and you know, sometimes those, those rounds still set off they do, but but at least it's far enough away that maybe you don't get hurt it's just like the cages on the outside of the vehicles, you know like when those rpgs are coming in, yeah they're hitting.
Speaker 3:They're hitting the, the cages, pinching the nose cone and yeah, it'll go off, but it's outside of you know of the they.
Speaker 2:They did change some of the rpg warheads to counteract the cope cages a little bit, but they're not as prevalent. Well, when we were in, they definitely weren't as prevalent then, but they were trying to change around to combat that. It is wild, how necessity is the mother of invention? And you started to see this footage from Ukraine of these drones and you think, wow, that is so royally scary. So, to go back to um, which comment was it Anthony's? To go back to Anthony's comment, drones are absolutely terrifying. And if I could think of one thing that the second amendment has as a challenge is that we always are so you know, focused on guns and ammo and small arms when we should be thinking well, should we be drafting legislation? Should we be pushing our politicians to protect drone use for civilians, our ability to use them for surveillance, our ability to use them to get eyes in the sky and see what's going on, our ability to even weaponize those drones? Is a weaponized drone protected under the Second Amendment?
Speaker 2:So that is something that you know. Ultimately, we have to accept that. Are we going to let them have a monopoly on violence? Or are we going to say, hey, if someone wants to 3D print drones or whatever, or if they want to purchase a drone and weaponize it, should they be able to weaponize it? Should a drone be able to have your AR attached to it or a full-auto pistol or something like that, or even you know, an explosive device? Should we be able to stand toe-to-toe with people who would use drones against us? We?
Speaker 2:You know, when you look at the war in Ukraine with Russia and Ukraine, really what it comes down to is who has the most of everything, Whoever has the most drones, whoever has the most bombs, the most of this, the most of that. It's more about resources. So can the civilian population actually stand toe-to-toe with a giant industrial complex that has millions of drones to year one? I mean, is that something that we should at least have the ability to use the same technology? They have to protect ourselves, and I think that's a scary realization that a lot of people are not ready to have that discussion.
Speaker 3:Well, they've already started to crack down on the drone ownership and the ability to utilize drones with the FAA registry. So now if you get a drone and you want to fly it above a certain elevation or altitude, you have to get a license to do so with the FAA, which, when that first came out, almost well, I know a few drone companies went out of business and DJI is, you know, one of the largest, if not the largest, drone manufacturer, um, or importer, depending on you know how you look at it, because they do import quite a bit. Um. You know they had stockpiles of drones which I'm sure wound up in ukraine but um, because they weren't able to sell them here. But that held up a lot of drone purchases because you had to get like a faa certification in order to fly these drones, um, so it was affecting a lot of businesses like yeah, I remember that like drone photography, like, uh, wedding photography, what like all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, isn't that wild.
Speaker 2:It is man, I remember that when they first started introducing the FFA requirements, it was like, all right, now you can't fly them over a certain distance in the air. I mean, I get it, they don't want planes running into them.
Speaker 3:Line of sight. You can't let them go out of line of sight.
Speaker 2:Liability I understand, but I mean, come on requiring an FFA certification to take pictures of a freaking house for a real estate agent. Come on, how dumb it's. All money, it's just to grease the palms. So we're going to wrap the show up. Before we do, I do want to give a quick shout out to our other sponsor for the show, and that's our friends at Allegiance Gold.
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Speaker 2:So any final thoughts. I know we went over a lot of commentary. We went over some of the political struggles. We went over some of the cultural struggles. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy in the 2A community. We scrutinize each other. We're at each other's throats. Admittedly, I'm guilty of that. Believe me, I've called people out before. I'm no angel. But what do you think? Any closing thoughts from you, matt, I know you've been taking some notes over there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I'll just like because I have a thing where I just kind of take notes If you're saying something, and I don't want to stop you, I don't want to interrupt your, your thoughts, so I'll just kind of jot something down, so that way when, whenever you finish your your thought, I can just jump in there. Um, as far as, um, you know final thoughts, I would. I think that you nailed it when you said the two-way community can be one of the most cannibalistic communities that I've ever seen. Uh, they do have a tendency to jump on, you know, the back of others if they don't agree 100% with what they believe. I've never actually quite seen something that bad. So it could even go to the point where it's like oh, I believe in the Second Amendment, but I don't think that this should be part of it, and then they'll just get absolutely eviscerated instead of saying, well, hey, I agree with this, but I don't agree with that. Um, I would say continue to fight the good fight, don't don't have the mindset of you know, the second amendment is losing ground. I think that we've already shown that the second amendment is again right now, currently is the strongest it's ever been. What we need to do now is take those wins and that momentum and keep going and keep fighting for more.
Speaker 3:What's next? All right, so tax stamps yeah, it sucks that we still have to register it. Tax is gone. Now let's get rid of the registry. Maybe that's going to happen in the next session, maybe it'll happen in two years. It took five years for that. I think they've been trying to get the hearing protection act going for the last five or six years and I was uh I was ecstatic when it finally made it to the floor and got voted on, cause it always gets shut down like stripped from the bill every time before it made it to the floor. So that's awesome. Um, is it awesome? You have to register? No, no, but you know we can still work on it it's a step in the right, step in the right direction, you know.
Speaker 3:Next, we have nfa. We can get some nfa items removed. Maybe abolish the nfa, maybe abolish, you know, the the need for registering destructive devices, who knows?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah I mean, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater y'all. I understand that things are stressful and, look, it's not stressful for some people, right? Some people just kind of ride on the coattails of life and they don't think about the finer minutia of some of the things that are going on, such as the Second Amendment ramifications, first Amendment ramifications, fourteenth Amendment ramifications, fourth Amendment ramifications and everything in between. So I understand that life is hard and we're all struggling. Right now. Many of us are having a hard time, you know, just staying afloat, and I get it. I know things are hard. Food costs are up, lots of things are up for many people. Housing costs are up. You know, taxes are crazy, I get it.
Speaker 2:But it's important that we stay politically engaged, that we stay politically responsible and that we you know we beat the horn or beat the drum hard we blow the horn and beat the drum hard and make sure that when there's an issue, that we show up and that we hold these people accountable for their inaction. Okay, and that's very important. I mean, right now, a lot of what we are facing is inaction, not so much action. So it's just important to make sure that we're staying on top of everything and we're staying politically engaged. I know it's hard, but I appreciate those of you that stay with their ear to the ground and listening for what's going on and and always, you know, warning people when things come up, and I try my best to stay on top of things. It's not always easy because there's a lot of things going on and that's no excuse. Being busy is no excuse. But I will tell you, um Jared over at guns and gadgets, if you follow his channel, he does a pretty dang good job of keeping people abreast of things that are going on pretty much in real time to a scary degree. Like he kind of knows about things before some of us do, and that's. That's scary, right, but uh, jared's channel's great. Check out guns and gadgets. I just hung out within this like last weekend had dinner.
Speaker 2:Great guy, very humble, very knowledgeable Scholar. He puts out a lot of great content in regards to news and updates in terms of legislative stuff. So keep that in mind. So many more podcasts on the way. I really appreciate you guys tuning in. We've got tons of stuff on the way. Also, right now you may be watching this podcast in video form over on IRAC Veteran 8888, but we also post an audio form. So Stitcher, spotify, apple podcasts, all the places you would find your favorite podcast. You can find LLP, life, liberty and the pursuit. Uh, so your go-to source for all things normal in a world gone mad, I mean more or less so, uh, matt anything else where we head on.
Speaker 3:Nope, I do know that I was actually going through some stuff and I found a cache of ballistic ink shirts brand new. So what we're going to do is, in the future episodes, we're going to start pulling from the comments, we're going to pick a couple of comments, we're going to reach out and get your size and we're going to send you a Ballistic Ink shirt that is no longer available. How many shirts are we talking? I mean, there's quite a bit, not a metric ton, but there's a few there that I think you guys would really enjoy and they're no longer in circulation.
Speaker 2:I'll put that comment out now so we can go ahead and start getting some comments from you guys. I'll think of something clever, but anyway you'll see it on Twitter. All right, many more on the way. Thank you, guys, so much. Have a great week. We'll see you next Monday. Bye, everybody.
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