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The "bug out vacation" represents a fascinating evolution in American travel culture. We're witnessing a fundamental shift in how families approach security and self-reliance while pursuing adventure and making memories on the road. This episode dives deep into this cultural transformation and what it means for today's travelers.

We explore how the expansion of constitutional carry laws (now in approximately 30 states) has changed the landscape for responsible travelers. However, we clarify a critical misconception - constitutional carry provisions generally only apply to residents of that state, making proper permits essential for interstate travelers seeking protection options.

The conversation extends beyond firearms to comprehensive preparedness. As we discuss, medical readiness deserves at least as much attention as defensive tools. The reality is stark: "The chances of you needing to plug a hole are way more than you making a hole." This practical insight reminds us that common injuries and emergencies are statistically more likely than defensive encounters.

We also examine the growing popularity of the "gray man" approach - maintaining capability without advertising it. This rejection of ostentatious tactical gear and politically-charged vehicle decorations represents a mature evolution in security mindset. There's wisdom in discretion, especially when traveling with family.

What's particularly encouraging is how this preparedness mindset transcends political boundaries. The desire to protect loved ones while enabling richer experiences isn't partisan - it's fundamentally human. As younger generations prioritize experiences over possessions, they're simultaneously adopting practical measures to ensure those experiences aren't derailed by preventable emergencies.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back everybody. This is Eric and Matt, and this is Life, liberty and the Pursuit, your beacon of freedom and the American way of life. Tune in every Monday for a new episode as we dive into the world of liberty and what makes our country great. Welcome back everybody. This is Eric and Matt here with LLP. We've got another great show here for you today and appreciate you tuning back in here. Every Monday at 9 o'clock Eastern Standard Time, we release our show and we really appreciate you tuning back in here. Every Monday at nine o'clock Eastern Standard Time, we release our show and we really appreciate you coming back to join us in this crazy world of debauchery and chaos. Hopefully we're the beacon of light and freedom in that crazy world here. How are things, matt?

Speaker 2:

It's great, you know. Just you know, on top of all that, just you know, some great conversations to help you get you through your work day always you know, yeah, I'm so crazy.

Speaker 1:

I want to talk a little bit about that for a second a podcast culture. Yes, that's not what today's show is about, but I will talk about that briefly. Uh, today's show we're going to be kind of talking more or less about the bug out vacation yep right, what do we mean by that?

Speaker 1:

well, well, to break it down, essentially, what we're going to be discussing is road guns and like your preparedness when you're on the road and you go on vacation, primarily if you're taking a car trip and you have the ability to bring some things along that might be extracurricular, and we're going to talk a little bit about how the society and culture of that has really shifted and changed and people have a much different mindset about the level of preparedness they want to have when they're out on the road traveling with their family, when they're going on vacation. It's almost this sort of combination of vacation and bugging out. You're essentially kind of mixing those things. So we're going to talk about it and hopefully some of you will come away from today's show with some ideas that I think will really point some of you in the right direction. Maybe there's some things you weren't thinking about. Maybe there's some things you've been doing that you'll solidify your opinions on your own process based on what we're going over. So we're going to talk about it a little bit.

Speaker 1:

But I do want to talk about podcast culture really quick. It's funny that you you made that idea pop into my head, matt, where I used to hate podcast culture. I used to hate, you know, guys sitting around and talking for an hour or sometimes more. I mean, you look at some of rogan's shows. They're sometimes two and a half hours, depending on the guest three hours right, and I used to hate that.

Speaker 1:

I used to think, wow, what a waste of time listening to these people. But what's crazy. And I hate to admit this. But rogan kind of changed my mind on this. It's like you listen to lex, like I like lex friedman. I really enjoy his uh, you know very, uh, astute sort of you know intellectual nature of how he handles guests. I always like that and and podcasts kind of changed for me a bit in recent years. It's like when I'm on the road and I'm listening to someone's show, I kind of I kind of like the conversation I love. I love the art of discourse and the art of of conversation and uh, and I think my view of podcasts has changed a lot over the years, especially since you and I started our show. This is episode 120, I believe.

Speaker 2:

So we're 120 episodes in, that's 120 plus hours of conversations that you and I have had over the years, yeah, and some of them have been like very, very interesting yeah, going all the way up to like tinfoil hat and alien abduction.

Speaker 1:

I know, I know and I love discussing that stuff because, you know, I like things that are on the fringe of society, matt, you know, I feel like there are so many ways that in the past there have been areas of our culture that are on that fringe, on the fringe of society. The bohemian aspect. You know, being a bohemian, someone who always goes against the grain of what popular culture dictates, and I used to despise that person, I used to think what a degenerate and I used to despise that person, I used to think what a degenerate. You know, and you think of this bohemian view of liberalism and this bohemian view of libertarianism and oh, there's hippies. You know, almost like this hippie culture but in some ways, like, as I get older, I look back on that and you know, it's kind of weird, matt, how we look at culture and we look at people and their views.

Speaker 1:

If someone is liberal, highly liberal, and leftist when they're young, what happens A lot of times?

Speaker 1:

When they get older, they get more right wing, they get more woke and woken, awakened, or more red pilled, so to speak, and they kind of become a little bit more well-versed in the reality of the world and their views change.

Speaker 1:

And I was always just extremely right-wing, right out of the womb. I mean, I've always been a very right-wing person and I still consider myself obviously extremely right-wing. But it's just so crazy how, as I get older, I find myself kind of I don't want to now, don't take it as I'm getting soft y'all, that's not that. But I do kind of find myself thinking you know, there are middle ground on some things. And uh, and I think that when I look at the realities of morality and what real morality is like, the animalistic nature of the world and how we, we, we tend to, you know, we always talk about being tribalized, being being tribal, and when you look at that, at that in its full view, and the older you get and the more you witness the way people act towards each other and the reality of the world that you see in front of you, you realize that the, that the reality is somewhere in the middle and I swear I've kind of found myself it's interesting.

Speaker 2:

You say you know, when you're younger you lean more towards the left and as you grow up you gradually start heading more towards the right. And that actually happens more often than not. That was like me. I wasn't a completely left winger. But when you're younger, even when you come out of the military, you know honestly, you know obviously your morals and your values align more with the right.

Speaker 2:

But then your, your sense of you know, of work, your work ethic, you're like why, why am I working so hard? I'm not getting enough, and that kind of gives you that like. You know, why do they have it and I don't have it? And it almost builds like that victim mentality from a very young age.

Speaker 2:

Because when you think about what, when you say, oh, you didn't put enough time at your company to get the raise, or you have to work for 10 years to get to like middle management, and that kind of sparks that thought of when you're younger, well, why do I have to wait that long? I want it now, I want it now, I want it now, I want it now. And as you get older, you work harder and you realize that I don't want to give someone that didn't earn it something, and that's when you start going more towards the right and you're like, well, if I had to put in 10 years of you know work to get to where I'm at, you have to put in 10 years of work like nothing's free, all right.

Speaker 2:

And then that sparks the, that's just sparks this big loop of like hey, you have to earn it, nothing is given to you, that's right. And that's kind of where I'm at now. And you nailed it. As you get older, as your income goes up, as your responsibilities go up, as the amount of sacrifice that you put in goes up, you start leaning more right and you're like all right, buddy, like I see it now, I see the world as it is.

Speaker 1:

You begin to digest the realities of the world, not only your world that you make and you, the people you surround yourself with and the decisions that you make that ultimately shape your destiny, but also the rest of society and where they sit in that equation. Because, you know, I've come to this kind of strange realization as I've gotten older. It's like you know, I'm with my girlfriend out on the island. We take the boat and show you've been over there.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it was a great experience.

Speaker 1:

We go over there and we backpack in and we set up our camp and it's just us for miles, primitive camping, primitive camping. And you know, and I'm thinking it's just the dog and me and my girl, and it's like, wow, I am so freaking happy being being just me and her and the dog, and it's like you know what that's really what everyone wants. Everyone's striving for their own personal Eden, garden of Eden, and, and some of us can achieve it and some of us can't, and and when you can't achieve your goals, it's frustrating, you know, and your initial reaction is to find someone to blame, for you know, obviously, well, someone else's fault is why I'm not where I want to be, and maybe I'm a bad example of that, because I don't really fit the mold in the scenario for what I do.

Speaker 1:

You know, I should be a garbage man or you know, a welder or something like you know I'm, I'm a Joe Blow, I'm just, I'm just a freaking hood rat guy that grew up in the ghetto. That just happened to, like damn you know, discover a calling that I didn't realize existed and create my own job. But that's not always everyone's situation. I'm very lucky and blessed to be in that situation. But people tend to, you know, sort of want to blame someone else.

Speaker 1:

And I think that the transformation from leftist to middle ground to right wing, that you know, that transformation, that Overton window that shifts so much as we see it, it's like when we see that transition occur, it becomes when we realize that no one's coming to save us and that we are responsible for our own failures and our own successes. And once you come to that realization, it's a very freedom defining moment for a person, because you know, you know, I can work as hard as I want or I can work as not work as hard as I want. Once you kind of get to that point where you you realize that you know, yeah, you can make more money if you work your butt off, you can also just live more simply. I think that's where a lot of the millennials are at gen x it's true um they're living more simply.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they may not be making as much money, but they're also just not living beyond their means, and I think that that's a that's a good thing to see.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying that they shouldn't strive for more, but they are living more within their means well, it's like a double-edged sword, because you know the next generation is living, you know, within their means, but their, their dreams, is to have more.

Speaker 2:

So they, they want, they don't want to work, and this is a. This is a very generalization and I apologize to any of our viewers that feel like they're getting lumped into this, but in general they are okay with not working as much for a certain amount of money say fixed, fixed income but then they want more than what they can actually afford. So they don't want to work as hard, but they want more without the work. It's like this weird, like catch 22, like, hey, I only want to work 40 hours a week. I'm not doing any overtime, but I still want to be able to go and do the Instagram vacations that I see. I still want to be able to have the nice car. I still want to be able to have the nice high rise condo downtown or in midtown, but I'm only working 40 hours and nothing more.

Speaker 1:

Right, and you're selling your time to other people and not building something around your own little nucleus of your own personal success story.

Speaker 2:

That's just from what I saw. That's just what I've been seeing now.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that does segue perfectly in today's show into today's show, because what we're discussing is life and and living and experiences. This generation, gen x and and the millennials both I can kind of just lump together because they're all kind of in similar places of life right now. Right and um, what this Gen Z I guess is the, is the up and coming young generation that they're kind of becoming. Oh, I think Gen Z is getting now around the age where they're kind of getting in school, right, is that the idea?

Speaker 2:

Um Gen Z, Gen X or Gen Z. I'm not a hundred percent sure. On gen z, I know that generation alpha, which is my daughter's age, my daughter's eight, so they are in a different generation.

Speaker 1:

They're in their infancy, essentially still generation alpha, learning about how screwed up the world is well, regardless of what generation is going through what let's just say, for lack of better term that the younger generation is experiencing, um, a very interesting coming of age, and that involves, you know, hey, they're prioritizing experiences over the material. Now, some may want the material, some desire the material. It's never been harder to buy a starter home, the prices on starter homes have never been more expensive, and all those things weigh heavily into the overall thought process that a young person is going to have in terms of starting a family, having children, laying down roots and, let's just say, living the traditional nuclear family household story that so many seem to want to be a prevalent thing in America, like what one would call the American dream. But maybe it's not the American dream anymore. Maybe people are like you know what? I want to live life, I want to live for myself, and that's a dangerous place to be in in society because birth rates are down, a lot less people are having children. So anyway, without going down into the weeds on that, we're going to discuss life and living and the importance of getting out and having fun with your family and having these experiences. That segues into the show perfectly. Before we get started, I would like to thank our first sponsor in today's show, and that is MyPatriotSupply.

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Speaker 1:

or?

Speaker 2:

something it's 29 29 with with north carolina being the cutter on the fence but see, the funny thing about north carolina is they have constitutional constitutional open carry. That's always been you can open carry in North Carolina if you're a citizen. You can't conceal carry. So they're voting on constitutional concealed carry.

Speaker 1:

But for lack of better term, let's just say that culture is changing around firearms and protecting yourself, and so do the laws, right, you know, those things have to go hand in hand. I mean, a great way to look at it is when you had prohibition, right, you know, when they tried to. You know, criminalize alcohol and everything. You know there's this huge underground market for illegal alcohol. You had speakeasies. You had these people. You know, even the feds and law enforcement would go in and get hammered in the speakeasies at night. And there was, you know. So what was happening? Culture society was voting with their feet and they were saying you know what we want? Alcohol. We don't care what the law is. Even the cops were putting them back. Now you had some super pure, super Christian, super evangelical people who were like, well, I'm going to enforce the law, no matter what, the Dudley Do-Right kind of people of the community that are untouchable and I get that.

Speaker 1:

But the bulk of society voted with their feet and they're like well, we want alcohol, we don't care if it's bathtub hooch, we're going to drink and no one's going to tell us we can't. What happened? They had to repeal prohibition because people just simply disobeyed and once mass noncompliance becomes a component of a law that they weren't expecting, they have no choice but to repeal that law. And we see a lot of things going on in the Second Amendment community with that.

Speaker 1:

I mean, look how everything went with the braces, that situation and bump stocks and things where we have these devices, that sort of sit on the gray line of the law, a little bit like right on the edge, and people are always going to see how close they can toe the line, to see how far they can go without upsetting the man, and eventually that becomes an overstep.

Speaker 1:

Eventually people go you know what Screw this, we're not going to obey this, we're going to do what we want. And eventually it's like okay, you're either going to arrest everybody and throw everyone in jail or you're going to go. You know what? We lost this law. We have to repeal it. We have to do X, y, z so many things in the Second Amendment community. I think that even the law enforcement like, even people like atf on their best day atf only has like 5500 field agents for the whole country, in fact the whole world, I believe, like in the entire planet. That's not a lot of people to essentially police an entire society of people when it comes to firearm stuff and when you right.

Speaker 1:

So at what point do you realize that the war's lost and that you know this whole thing is just a moot point now, like why disrupt people's lives, why send people to jail over something that is just very innocuous and innocent? And I think that's where a lot of people are at. It's not that there's this kind of glowing massive noncompliance with the whole thing. Well, perhaps there is a component of that, but part of it is just where people are like what are y'all doing? What are y'all freaking doing? Like you're disrupting people's the lives of normal people just trying to live free and protect themselves and live their lives by their own standards. Like what are you doing?

Speaker 1:

What do you think you're doing and how do you suppose you're going to actually carry out your wishes, and which of you are actually emboldened and motivated to actually carry out those wishes? So it's like by the time okay, yeah, on paper you got 55,000 or 5,500 soldiers. How many of them are actually going to carry out the order? How many of them are? Let's just say how many of them are motivated to the point that they're actually going to, you know, be politically brainwashed, to the point that they're willing to politically carry out that you know. I just don't see the math adding up on that.

Speaker 2:

And that's how prohibition was. Yeah, I mean now I think that there's, unfortunately more willing to do that for a paycheck than not, but back when prohibition era was going on. I mean that says something when there's enough mask noncompliance that companies have concentrated grape juice you buy in the grocery store and they slap a warning label that says do not add water and put uh, put in the cabinet and wait one week or you will. This will turn into wine, it's like. So it's like imagine that companies are actively telling you not to do something, knowing good and well they're giving you the instructions on how to do said thing. Um, now, imagine if they did that. Now, like gun companies are like do not take out this fire control unit and punch a third hole in here, right, or you will have a machine gun do not combine bleach and peroxide.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, don't, for whatever, do not do this and I mean it don't and I'm not now on that, we're joking.

Speaker 1:

but on this one, serious, don't mix those. Okay, there's lots of household chemicals. You shouldn't mix boys and girls. So anyway, mainly ammonia. Yeah, be careful with ammonia.

Speaker 1:

Look, the point is people are prioritizing experiences and what we're trying to provide is the context to sort of back up what creates the fringe of society who decides I'm going to do what the hell I want, right? No one's going to tell me what to do. And, hey, I may not have a lot of money to buy that boat or that luxury item or to buy that extra widget or whatever it may be, but dang, if we don't have the money to. You know, let's go on a sightseeing trip, let's go hiking, let's go to the mountains, let's get out and just share nature with the family, or let's just take a road trip. Hey, fuel prices are, you know, pretty reasonable.

Speaker 1:

In America, fuel prices are generally a lot better than they are around other parts of the world. Right In Brazil my girlfriend's from Brazil down there, prices on fuel are astronomical and cars are astronomically expensive, motorcycles astronomically expensive, and you got to worry about groups of thugs pulling you over on the side of the road and shooting you and stealing your car left and right and they'll chop shop that thing and they'll part it out. So at least we don't live in a country where you have to worry about someone popping you in the head with a gun and stealing your car to to part it out for parts. You don't have to worry about paying $9 a gallon for fuel. So we have for lack of a better term freedom of travel we do.

Speaker 2:

Now, how you travel is completely up to you and I'm glad that you wanted to discuss this because it is a mindset right. So when you go on vacation or you're traveling, so my family, we travel a lot and it's solely due to doing a lot of competitions. Like I compete in jujitsu, my daughter competes in wrestling, so we're driving all over the southeast. Now we have a rule If the drive is longer than, say, seven or eight hours, we're flying Like that's just the way it is. Like my back, you know, I have a bad back from being in the army like just not good knees, bad back, bad. That's pretty par for the course for most infantry guys. I don't want to sit in a car for longer than seven or eight hours driving, all right. So we fly, but seven or eight hours, that puts us anywhere, including Alabama, tennessee, kentucky, south Carolina, like the Southeast region. We travel lifestyle wise. We keep everything packed. My car, you know, might sound crazy to some people, but not to people that live the lifestyle. You know, I keep a mmp sport or two in the back of the car. Level four plates, vest, hearing protection, everything is all together, nice little package right there in the back, hanging on a hook underneath my, where my spare tire is, I have the actual carbine ammo. Everything's set to go. That never leaves the car. That is always there. That goes with me wherever we go in the vehicle.

Speaker 2:

Then I have my personal CCW that I carry with me. And that brings up a great point with reciprocity. When you said, hey, most people don't know this, but just because the state is constitutional carry, that only pertains to residents of that state. So if you are not, so for Georgia has constitutional carry. If you're visiting from another state and you are not a resident of Georgia, then that constitutional carry does not pertain to you because you are not a Georgia resident, which is why you need a CCW if you're going to travel. So that way, if I'm traveling around to these different states, I don't have to worry about it because that has reciprocity. Do I like the fact that I have to get a CCW license permit? No, does it help? Absolutely, it helps keep everything kosher as far as traveling. If I go to purchase firearm instant, I'm not waiting background check.

Speaker 2:

They've already done that. No, I'm glad that it's not required, but it's good. It's good that you know when we travel back and forth. It makes life easier, um, but that's the main thing. Like you have to be when the the the subject of the podcast bug out vacation. Like we go on vacation to Florida. Wherever we make sure we have all that stuff with us.

Speaker 1:

Like you, got to think you're away from home, you don't have the conveniences of being able to go in and grab a blowout kit or grab a medical kit or grab a tourniquet, I mean. And look, I know we all have this sort of a view right, that if something bad happens it's going to be some John Wick shit and you're going to be reloading and all you know all this sort of stuff. I mean, as guys, we can't help but fantasize that a bit. I mean, look, it's just part of being a man and being masculine is like who doesn't want to save the day, like. Everyone has that view and I get it, trust me, I do.

Speaker 1:

You should be prepared to be WIC if you need to, but more than likely you're going to need to be the medic, you're going to need to apply medical and there are so many ways to get hurt beyond firearms. We get pigeonholed into this mindset of thinking that, well, because I'm a gun guy, whatever, if I get hurt out on the road, it's going to be from a gun, and we tend to have that very erroneous view. The fact is, there are way more ways to get hurt. There are plenty of ways to get hurt. Y'all the chances of you needing to plug a hole are way, way, way more than you making a hole. I mean, let's just face it Now. You need to be prepared to make some dang holes if need be. You need to perforate your enemy if they decide to come in for you. You got to be ready. But also understand that the chances of you needing to you know, deal with a little cut on your little girl's finger or deal with a little bruise or a bump or a strawberry oh, she fell down, scratched her knee, and those types of things happen all the time and you're going to need to prepare for those little eventualities and I know this sounds crazy for me to say but the little welly, boo-boo kits. You're going to find yourself cracking open that welly, way more than you are your bug out bag or your chest rig or something.

Speaker 1:

But you need to be ready in case something goes south, because your family relies on you. If you are the only means of protection they have and you're away from the home, you have no way to hunker down in your abodement and protect yourself or run away. Solidify yourself somehow. You've got to be willing to harden up and deal with the situation as it unfolds in front of you and that's not always an easy thing for people to work out in their minds because you know we are generally a pretty peaceful society in America. Generally we're a very high trust society Generally. No-transcript, all right, you know, hey, maybe. Uh, you know we're going to have the M4 with a round in the chamber, you know we're going to be ready.

Speaker 1:

You just never know. And I'm not saying those are the kind of places that we all regularly frequent, but it's not to say that there aren't places that are more dangerous than others. That's just the reality of the world that we live in. And even though we are a very high trust society, there are going to be situations where you find yourself sort of upping the threat factor a bit in your mind. This is not something you make an announcement over the. You know you're in your car and go threat level four here. Oh God, code yellow. We've gone from a code green to a code yellow. No, but in your mind you're constantly reassessing the threat factor that you see and the potential for threats and you're always remaining very vigilant and paying attention to everything that you see around you as it unfolds. And I think that's just part of being a normal protector, a normal masculine man. These are things that you don't need to train to do, you just need to instinctively do it, because that's part of being a man is assessing your surroundings and knowing when something could go wrong.

Speaker 1:

Your partner's job and again, this is assuming we're all you know, man and woman here, but let's just say your lady's job is to just be a woman. She doesn't need to be thinking about all of the minutiae of death and destruction and mayhem. She needs to be worried about her nails and her makeup and her outfit. And you know what the kids are doing. You know, yeah, she's checking on the kids. She's making sure the kids are comfortable in the car. She's hey, when are we going to stop? I have to pee. Hey, I'm hungry, I want a burrito. That's her job is to worry about the minutia of living. It's your job to keep them alive and in my mind, that's. The man's job is to bear the brunt of that chaos so that your partner doesn't have to. I mean, that's just part of it. Now there are couples I've seen where both are kind of unhinged.

Speaker 1:

And that's okay. I've seen couples before. I've seen chicks with the Liberty tattoos and all that. And yeah, would that girl grab an MP5 and smoke someone? I'm sure she would. But I'm saying that for most people, generally speaking, the man is going to be the provider of the security in that equation. I would say probably more times than not.

Speaker 2:

I think you know it really comes down to. That's a great point. I think that it just comes down to, like, what you're looking for in a partner. Some guys are looking for a teammate, a partner, to do that Like. They're both very like, very similar, they're both always head on a swivel, they're both always have each other's back. And then there's some guys I'm very much in your ballpark of hey, I want to be the protector of the family. That is my burden to bear and I will do a good job of it. And you, your burden is hey, let's take care of the house. Let's take care of the house, let's take care of the kids. You know I'll do my part of you know trying to upkeep the, the house of. You know, doing the, the duties of what needs to be done. But let me be the man, let me be the protector it's so crazy.

Speaker 1:

My girlfriend is so awesome. I'm like she. You know she. She grew up in brazil, so you know like look y'all the brazilians capital.

Speaker 1:

Look the brazilians are wired completely different y'all, like you know, they have a completely different mindset on on what that means. And I'm very lucky that my girl you know she's kind of girl that she'll doll up and look all pretty, have all her, you know, done up really right, and you know she, she loves to look good and have her makeup on and she's very feminine girl, you know, and obviously so. But you would think, oh, you know she's harmless. So you look at her and think she's just a little school girl, she's harmless. But I tell you, if something went down, you know she's going to have that Beretta pointed at your freaking face quicker than you can even think. Like she, she's all, she's hypervigilant because of how she grew up. Now, I'm not saying that every person should be like that, but I think she's perfect in that. Like she, she is so in tune with that violence factor.

Speaker 2:

It's. It's awesome, Like she became a product of her environment.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

All right, so we look at the whole protector paradigm. What do we mean when we say this whole bug out mentality and that you, you, you actually laid out the foundation perfectly when you talked about the way that you organize your vehicle when you're? When you're traveling, you have the option to use that stuff if you need it, but you don't make a. When you're traveling, you have the option to use that stuff if you need it, but you don't make a big deal about it. You don't show it off, you don't have tactical stickers all over your car, gun rights stickers all over your car. You don't wear tactical pants and tactical britches and tactical backpacks. I mean this whole gray man mentality. Look, I get it. Okay, I used to be the kind of person that wore boots and tactical pants and the veteran hat.

Speaker 1:

It's, it's, trust me, when you, when you're exposed to the military environment, it really does institute this sort of regimented way of thinking in your life. You know, and it, it, you want others to know that you, that you kind of that. You've been indoctrinated into that regimented way of thinking. It's not necessarily a bad thing, right? If we see another veteran wearing a veteran hat, that's an instant conversation starter. You can go hey, what did you do? What was your MOS? So we want to feel included in a group of people. It's natural for us as human beings we want to feel included and we want our people to know who we are. And you know, yeah, and it doesn't matter guys, it's universal If, if I see an old Navy veteran from World War Two, do you think for one second that I'm not going to go over and talk to that guy?

Speaker 1:

Of course I am, you know I want to. I want to hear a story like a quick story. Of course I am, you know I want to. I want to hear a story like a quick story. And and if you're wearing a veteran hat, you know, hey, war in Iraq and then world war two. Well, guess what? You instantly have a bond and you don't realize it yet. That veteran's going to see you and he's going to know that he can talk to you about anything because you've been, you've been in something right.

Speaker 1:

So a lot of veterans, they don't want to talk about things that they that they did not to ignore me, but they're going to talk to another veteran. So it's kind of like, why do people wear the veteran hat? Because it identifies you as a veteran and when you talk to other veterans it's like that's kind of that universal sign. It's like, okay, this person's in the know. So I know how far I can take the story if I want. Or I know how far I can talk about something. Or I know I know that if I use some vernacular or acronyms, I know they're going to understand what I'm talking about. They're going to know what an MOS is Like. There's just certain lingo that civilians will understand. And it's not being big headed or weird, it's just the reality of military life compared to civilian life.

Speaker 2:

No, you're absolutely, you're absolutely correct and I've had the privilege to talk with you know, I'll see them out in public Vietnam veterans and World War II veterans and I think you know, when you're having these conversations with them and you're kind of like, you know, chewing the fat and telling stories, you don't have to emphasize certain things like you would with a civilian. Like a civilian, uh, you know, I mean, granted, I'm a civilian now, but like when you're, when you're talking telling these stories, you're like oh, I shot him like a normal, uh, another combat that just like yeah but someone has never served.

Speaker 2:

They're like, yeah, yeah, you know like you have to like really kind of pick and choose, like right, like to make it seem like you're not some kind of psycho.

Speaker 1:

You're like I had to shoot him, like Like no, like I shot him, there's no filter with veterans, yeah it is what it is, and you know when someone looks the part they're wearing the hat, I mean and you know when it's stolen valor and when it's not.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Come on, you can tell, you know.

Speaker 1:

And as a veteran part, you know that there's no filter there, there's no boundary with that person and, and it's crazy, you could be a complete stranger. You know, I've I've walked up to world war ii vets before and you know and this is when I was still wearing my veteran hats and stuff and you know, or something that would indicate that a prior service of some sort, I think at one point I was wearing a cib hat that has a cib on it. You know some of us we do that. You know I don't do it anymore. I'm going to talk about why I'm going to get back to the original. I haven't gotten too far off track, but I'll get back to the original. Uh thought, but I remember talking to one guy and you know he opened up about water canal and it's like whoa, holy crap. Like you know, this marine is talking about holy crap.

Speaker 1:

I was like wow, I'm hearing that, like you know he, he trusts me enough to like. It's almost like they know that those stories are gonna fall by the wayside, they're gonna be gone when they're gone. So when they tell you those things, it's like that's an honor for someone to put something that heavy and deep on somebody they don't even know, but they trust you enough to accept that you're okay with it because you've experienced something similar.

Speaker 1:

Maybe you weren't stacking bodies like sandbags, like in guadalcanal right man, they stacked them deep, but they know that you're gonna, that you're gonna pass the message.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, and you're not gonna judge them for for what they're asking.

Speaker 1:

Yes and and that's what it all comes down to. So, getting back to the gray man, many of us have kind of come to the realization that sometimes it's all comes down to. So, getting back to the gray man, many of us have kind of come to the realization that sometimes it's not always practical to walk around with the combat boots and the tactical pants and all this sort of stuff and the whole gray man mentality has gotten much, much more popular in society. So, as Matt said, getting back to the original statement that I was trying to, you know I get off track sometimes, but what I was trying to you know get off track sometimes, but what I was trying to complete my thought process was that, uh, matt, by having this gray man view, you know, no stickers, no tactical crap, no veteran, this veteran, that gun rights, this gun right, that come take it. This come take it, that it's bad.

Speaker 2:

When I see those, come and take it.

Speaker 1:

Stickers, right you don't put a come and take it sticker on your car because they're going to come take it.

Speaker 1:

They're going to wait till you're parked at disneyland, they're going to break the back window and take it. You know. So you know there is a beauty in in not being known. Yep, to blend in with the, with the normies, as hard as that is, I get it. Like if you went to the, you went to the fbi academy and you made it through fbi academy. I know how hard it is not to put that fbi academy sticker on your car. I get it. Okay, I know how hard it is. You're proud of it, but I'm telling you it's like don't yeah, just don't target, just don't um, I will.

Speaker 1:

I will say this though, um you know and you should know that from being in the FBI Academy, by the way, anyway. No, it's true. How did you make it through and not know?

Speaker 2:

that I will say, and I'm just going to go back real quick because I know we're going to move on. When I did talk with those World War II vets and Vietnam vets, the one thing that I always found interesting was that they would always look at you know me or any other, you know g watt soldier, and they would always comment the same thing. They're like oh, you guys had it so bad, isn't that weird? Yeah, that's so weird. They would always. And and the crazy thing is we looked at the opposite, we looked at it to them like you guys, both of you, vietnam and what we're doing had it so much worse. And you know, I asked them why I I had it so much worse. And you know I asked them why. I was like so why would you say that? Why do you think that? Because the GWAC guys, we think you guys had it way worse. They did. And well, see, that's our opinion.

Speaker 2:

But the one thing they said was they knew who they were fighting and they said, at least they knew the difference, like they could look at somebody and say, hey, that's the enemy and this is not. She said you guys had no idea. You have guys trying to blow you up on the road you had. You're going into villages. They think you're your friend but they're not. They said that's worse than not having a frontline war and I was like you know what? That does make sense. That doesn doesn't change my opinion. I still think you guys had it way worse. But I can see why you would think. Because they're basically we're fighting a war. We were fighting a war that they had no experience on how to fight.

Speaker 1:

Vietnam was a royally shitty war.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was just so crazy to like.

Speaker 1:

I will never equate what I went through to what no we used to talk about that when we were over there having trench foot and walk around nasty, getting rained on all the time you know wading rivers.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, just being so, can you imagine wading through a, doing a river crossing and then spending the next three days in a humid jungle? Never being dry not being able to dry out swamp ass, oh man crotch rot, yeah, oh, my god.

Speaker 1:

Imagine the, the chafing on your legs. I mean no way. And then they're trying to kill you the whole time.

Speaker 2:

So, like we look at it from that point of view and well as infantrymen.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're like no way, that's the suck, yep, and then jungle fighting sucks.

Speaker 2:

And then they look at it from their point of view like, oh, you're just walking down the street and they try to blow you up venomous snakes, big ass spiders, dangerous monkeys even probably no way. Howler monkeys yeah, I mean no way.

Speaker 1:

I mean then you gotta worry about a monkey stealing your, your canteen or something. Wake up, damn what happened. There's no telling what those guys went through and they view it so nonchalantly because when you look at something in retrospect it's easy to go ah, it wasn't so bad, yeah. But while you're doing it you're thinking oh my god.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's what makes it so relatable between war veterans is that, like we all, we all, you know, experience suck, so we can all relate on that same level yeah, the suck is the suck, no matter where you you know, it could be hot and and dry, or it could be hot and humid, but the suck is the suck.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, man, I got a lot of respect for those guys, tremendous amount of respect, so a lot of respect.

Speaker 2:

With that said, I I didn't realize you know the way that I have my vehicle loaded out when I'm traveling. I didn't realize how crazy it looks to other people, because I'm like hanging around people that are like me, until a guy needed, uh, me to jump his car. And now my battery. I drive, uh, an audi and the audi battery is in the trunk, all right. So guess what else is in my trunk, like all my gear.

Speaker 2:

So I had to back up to his vehicle and I opened my, I popped my, my, my trunk, and like he's standing there and my trunk opens and he's like I look at his eyes and his eyes just kind of like, oh my God, what is this stuff? And you know, like I said, plate carrier, full loadout, um, uh, everything. And then I have to open up the spare tire. Well, underneath the spare tire, well, is where I keep my, my carbine. And this guy's like who is this guy? And I have to pull all this stuff out of my trunk.

Speaker 2:

Um, unfortunately, the the battery is in a very, uh, inconvenient location in my vehicle. So I had to pull all this stuff out. So I'm just putting it on the ground and it just looks like I'm on a firearm store, like all this stuff out. So I'm just putting it on the ground and it just looks like I'm I own a firearm store, like all this stuff is laid out. I finally get his vehicle jumped and, you know, I find it perfectly normal and I don't know if that's just because I'm conditioned to accept the fact that this is how people travel, but I would like to believe that there's more people out there that travel in this manner than than not. Um, and that's just like. That was like, like coming to Jesus, like, oh man, I should have probably been a little bit more careful about, you know, letting him know like, hey man, this is normal stuff, right, but but the reality, matt, is that that is much more normal to a much larger subset of society.

Speaker 1:

I'd like to believe so. I want to believe it too, and I tell you, the more and more people I run into that just kind of seem like normal people, like just normies going about their day. You know, you're seeing more people owning an AR, owning maybe some armor, owning a few extra magazines, having a little food storage, having some basic preparations in place, and I don't see anything wrong with that. In fact I celebrate it, even when it's people that maybe they think differently than me. I think that if someone thinks differently than me politically, that's okay. I'm willing to accept that I could be wrong. I hope that they're willing to accept that they could be wrong. I hope that they're willing to accept new information as they see it and that they'll think about their views as logically as I do. I hope that they're willing to accept that they could be wrong. I hope that they're willing to accept new information as they see it and that they'll think about their views as logically as I do. I hope that and I really want to believe that for a majority of people.

Speaker 1:

But being able to protect yourself outside of the confines of organized government interference is probably way more important to your political let's just say education than anything else could ever be. Because once you begin to think as an individual, to think as an independent person, to be an independent thinker, to gather the facts, to protect your views with your own might, rather, and to gather your own might to do that, you really do become your own person and over time you begin to sort of reject some of the traditional confines of what you feel society has placed on you, such as you know I'm not saying just you know be an anarchist, but I think that part of your political education falls to the wayside when you don't have the ability to protect yourself outside the confines of the government protecting you. You should never rely on them to protect you. Now, is that to say that if something terrible happened, let's say we were invaded by an outside army I know this is again, this is one of those weird John.

Speaker 1:

Wick scenario where we go oh, john Wick, red Dawn, right, those two scenarios. A red Dawn scenario we're being invaded, everyone wants to believe that they're going to grab their rifle and run out the door and go fight the bad guys. You know, and honestly I think it's way more true than you, than you might think, I think a lot of people are not going to have that right. But when we look at that, is that to say now do I want an F-16 dropping a bomb on the enemy in the wood line? At that point, yeah, I want the F-16s to help me. If I can right, I'll take the government when it benefits the greater society, but if I don't have to, I don't want to interact with them, I don't want anything to do with them. If I have a choice and I have to absolutely need it it has to be beyond the need, it has to be so far into the realm of need that there's no other choice. Now, some people don't have that mentality, but I think that when you gather the tools of self-preservation and that comes in the form of medical food, water, guns, whatever have, you know that mindset. Once you gather that mindset and it becomes a part of your life, you begin to question what you've always been told about. What government's role is protecting you. We're going to go ahead and take a moment to shout out the next sponsor of the show, and that's our friends at Allegiance Gold.

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Speaker 1:

Well, actually I think the family got a hold of those and they got rid of them real quick, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that means that your dollar is worth 45, 50 times less than what it was when a Morgan was $1. Yeah, that's silver. So silver has traditionally been a little bit more volatile. Right Gold has grown tremendously. The current spot price right now is $3,266 per gram right now is $3,266 per gram. Wow, now imagine you see the guys walking around with like the Cuban link necklaces. It's like probably like 15 grams of gold man, like some big chonky boys, that is a very expensive necklace.

Speaker 1:

But it's a good way to protect your wealth. If you're wearing your wealth, I mean like who's gonna take it from you?

Speaker 2:

they can, they can take it from you it's funny back and it's a funny story back in the days those cubans are heavy dude like you would see, like the, the pimps they would have, like the gold, and before they're getting arrested, you would see them take it off and start giving it to their, to their girls and they would use that to bail them out of jail.

Speaker 2:

They were literally wearing their bail money around them and it was just a little funny story about how they, why they would. You would always see them like pulling off their rings.

Speaker 1:

Oh man.

Speaker 2:

That way, they have a way to get out.

Speaker 1:

Well, so I think that as we wrap up today's show, it's important to reflect on family and community, and you know what our rights really mean to us, and that's what I really wanted to, you know, make prevalent in today's show is that this younger generation. They are prioritizing experiences over things. And how do we protect us in our natural environment as we experience life? And that's really, it's such a basic idea you would think that so many people get it, but they don't. They tend to lose sight of what real liberty even really is, and that's the ability to protect the words that come out of your mouth, to defend what you say, to defend your position where you are, to defend who you are, where you are and when you are. And if you don't have the ability and the tools and the foresight at your disposal to do that, ultimately you will wind up being a burden on society in some way, if not a burden on yourself. And, boy, the form of burden that you are on yourself may be your last burden ever. You may not survive to see the end of it, and that's the scariest thing that we all want to avoid, especially when we're with our kids.

Speaker 1:

Some of you have children, some of you are married. You know you have your partner. The last thing you want to do is let down your partner in the worst way possible. It could, you know, you wind up getting robbed or worse. There's a lot of things that can happen and unfortunately, the world is a dirty and scary place and while we are a very high-trust society, there are people that mean you harm. And you're going to run into 150 or 200 people that are awesome, but there might be one person in that group of 200 that you want to watch out for. They might have something bad planned for you and if had you misstepped or miscalculated or prepared improperly, it might not end well for you. And I'm not saying live life worried about that one out of 200.

Speaker 1:

No not saying live life with that victim mentality. Oh, woe is me. The sky is falling, every person's out to hurt me. People tend to have that view of gun owners. They think, well, what are you scared of? Why do you have to have a gun? Don't you know jujitsu, matt? Don't you know karate? Don't you know how to protect yourself? Why don't you go to the gym, you big? Why don't you go work out and get strong? Why do you need a gun? Well, guess what I do work out, you work out. You know jujitsu. I may not be as good on the combat sports as you are, but I'm in shape.

Speaker 1:

You better believe I can throw somebody out a window if I need to. This isn't about that. This is about the person who might mean you harm. They're going to have a gun. You better believe it. So damn, you better have one. And I find that such a low tier, low hanging fruit argument of why, oh well, why do you have all those guns? Or what are you scared of? As a matter of fact, I'm not scared of anything. What are you scared of? I guarantee you, if you strip back the veneer of all the bull crap you're peddling, you're scared of something and you better believe it may even be that you're so afraid of being a gun owner. Maybe you're afraid of guns and that's why you don't have a gun. But you better believe they're going to try to equate that to me being fearful of society, bro. No way, that's actually the opposite. I'm not scared of anything because I'm prepared for anything. I think that's a really important mindset that people need to have.

Speaker 2:

I a hundred percent agree and I will comment on that. But I do need to make a correction. I stated about three minutes ago that the spot price for gold was 3200 and some change per gram. I apologize, that was per ounce. So yes, just so you guys know, it's 3244 per ounce now, now that that correction has been made, as far as what are people scared of? As someone that owns a jiu-jitsu academy and we see new students all the time I can tell you that the number one people fear is performance. Like they are scared of how they're going to perform. They, in their mind, they believe they're perfectly capable. They're perfectly capable of defending themselves, whether it's with jujitsu, whether it's with a firearm, whether it's with a knife. They, in their mind, think that they can do it. In actuality, they're helpless. They're helpless creatures.

Speaker 2:

They're scared of being proven wrong. Exactly, they don't want to believe that they can't defend themselves or they can't defend their family. And when they actually try to learn, they've realized how incapable they are. That's what they're scared of. They don't want to know, they want to continue to go through life believing they could do it if the time came. So that's the number one thing, and that happens a lot, even with firearms training.

Speaker 2:

Man, like think about it, you leave the military and you'd like to believe, oh, I'm a, I'm familiar with firearms, you know whether it's a pistol or firearm like a machine gun, or you know, uh, m four, m, ar 15, you don't go and go to the shooting range, you don't do competitions, you don't get training because you don't want to get shown how bad you really are. Um, and that's like the number one thing. You see people like why don't you shoot uspa? Why don't you shoot this competition? Because you suck? Like, yeah, you're familiar with it. That doesn't mean you're going to go out and do well at the competition. And they don't. Again, they don't want to be shown how bad they really are, they want to continue through life believing that they're capable. Man, it's, it's not true.

Speaker 1:

So I'll give you a little insider baseball, like on days that I go. So I'm due for some filming days to get out and cut some range content. Believe me, I read the comments. I know you guys are ready for some range content. I've got some awesome stuff to show you. By the way, I've got a Beretta 1301 in that we're going to do a video on. I've got a cool 10 gauge that we cut down. That's really wicked. There's some sub guns, lots of neat stuff. So don't worry, we've got a lot of things coming.

Speaker 1:

But when I go out and film those videos, you know we'll go out and film as many in one day as we can possibly get done. And yeah, I'll change shirts, I'll change hats. I'm telling you the truth here. It's just yes, you're moving cameras around. It's hot and muggy. Maybe one day the lighting is just perfect because the clouds are overcast. You're like, oh man, this shot's looking great. You want to film as much as you can when the conditions are perfect, right. That's just the logistics of filming stuff, right. And it doesn't matter if it's gunplay or anything. Anything outdoors, gunplay or anything. Anything outdoors when the conditions are perfect. Yeah, you want to film while the getting's good Right.

Speaker 1:

So and there are days that I've gone out and and man, I'll shoot all day, and I go, wow, I had a fantastic day, man, I'll hit. Hit every piece of steel, logged, every shot. None of the guns malfunctioned, everything worked right. I got every shot the way I wanted it. I put a shot, a bottle cap off with a shotgun slug. I did all headshots on the D28 at 35 yards and, man, I haven't shot a pistol in a couple of weeks. Like man, I'm doing really good today. And there's days that I surprise myself and I go, wow, like I still got it. Man, I can still shoot really good, you know, even though I don't really practice as much as people might think I do.

Speaker 1:

But then there are days where I go out and I'm like man, I am shooting so royally shitty today. I should just hang up my hat as a YouTuber and just say you know what I give up. There are days that I have a shitty day at the range and it's not always, you know, roses and sunshine. Now, luckily, there are way more better days than there are bad days. But it just seems like there are some days that I go out and for some reason the skill set just not doesn't match where my mental state is for that day. Mentally, I'm like all right, man, you know, we're good, we're there, we're in the zone, and then the body doesn't mesh with what the mind wants. And jujitsu, I'm not a combat sports guy, Matt is. But it's the same thing. You can tell your body move this way, do this, bear this load, take this impact, prepare to do this. You can want your muscle memory to do one thing, but unless you train that body to do what your mind tells it to, your body's not going to cooperate. Your body's definitely not going to take punishment. Your body's not going to. The central nervous system is going to be in shock when it's given a stimulus that it hasn't gotten before. And you're definitely not going to do that just on the competition right, Like you're going to prepare part of training.

Speaker 1:

When we say training, what do we mean by training? What do we mean by physical conditioning? When I go in and lift weights, I'm a power lifter. When I go in and lift weights and I'm power lifting, you know you are, you are shocking your central nervous system. You are giving a new stimulus to your muscles. Hey, you need to grow right. And here's why because we're breaking it down and you're telling your body hey, we need our muscles bigger, because we're constantly working to fatigue, we're working to muscle failure. We're sending the neural we're developing the neural pathways in our nervous system and from our brain to tell our body, hey, we're weak, we need to be strong. And providing the food and rest and everything is there in the recovery you will theoretically I mean, depending on how good your genetics are yeah, you're going to get bigger, You're going to grow back bigger.

Speaker 1:

And that's how that training is. You're going to get your butt kicked a dozen times, but on that 13th time, man, it's like we've learned some mistakes. We've learned, we've mastered this technique. We've mastered this. We've we've hardened our bodies, we're, we've, we've done our cardio. We've gotten better at cardio. We don't get winded as easily and guess what? You become harder and harder to beat as you learn more. You progress as as a fighter and you get better.

Speaker 2:

That's right and you nailed it. I mean, the only way to do it is to redline. We call it redlining. You take your body to the red line. You know, when I'm doing like my high intensity training, I'm spending 45 minutes in zone four, which is pretty high to stay for an extended amount of time. You're going into zone five, zone six, for, you know, three or four minutes at a time, then backing back down. But when your rest zone is zone four, you're going to grow, your cardiovascular strength is going to grow, your cardio in general is going to grow, but it's a very uncomfortable place to be. You know it is a very uncomfortable place to be.

Speaker 1:

And truth be told dude, right, like okay, could. Could some of matt's students come in in the gym and do a 500 pound squat? Maybe, not probably can I? Can I squat 500? Yes, I can squat 500, but those are two different things. Now, can I get winded for 45 minutes? That's a different story now.

Speaker 1:

Like you know, that cardio I'm telling you, getting in zone 4, or 45 minutes of zone 4 cardio, you're burning 1500 calories. Yeah, that's not easy, you know. So those are two different stimulus, there are two different things that you, that you are training your body to do. And the fact is, like me, as a power lifter, not to get into this, because I'm actually gonna have my trainer come in, do a podcast with us. He's going to be one of our first guests, by the way. Uh, you know, we're going to have pit come in and we're going to talk about all this stuff.

Speaker 1:

So I don't want to get into this in today's show because we're ending today's show, but I'll just end by saying that you know, yeah, should you do cardio as a power lifter? Yeah, you should be doing some cardio, but if you're doing power lifting at a high level, it is damn cardio, cause, trust me, you get winded, your heart rate is up and if you take shorter rest periods in between your sets, let's say that you're doing like if my max deadlift is 540 or 520, and let's say I go in and hit reps for 275. Well, 275 is still a lot of weight. Even for people that that aren't used to deadlifting, even 275 is a lot. It's a lot yeah but.

Speaker 1:

If I'm going and hitting 275 for five by fives but I'm only resting like 45 seconds in between each set. That's gonna smoke you, trust me. Your heart rate's gonna be 145 155 and you're gonna be smoked. It is cardio. Weightlifting is definitely at a higher level. It can. It can get you into. And then the, the uh bodybuilding guys. You know they do more of that kind of circuit training where you get your heart rate up and you keep it there and they're doing weightlifting but they're doing like lots of volume with lower weight and they're keeping the heart rate up. They're not resting a lot in between sets. You know they're getting in there and they're they're knocking it out and they're keeping that heart rate high.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're doing like 30 second rests. Oh god, yeah, it's pretty brutal, it sucks and that, uh, sherm.

Speaker 1:

That's how sir michael works out. He does a lot of that circuit training you know, and he's fit, but dude, it sucks. That's how I do it, like it royally sucks I get in there my workout.

Speaker 2:

You know my split is monday, wed, friday, three-day split. My workout will probably take about 45 minutes.

Speaker 1:

But that's a hell of a 45 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Beginning to end 45 minutes. You're taking 30-second pauses in between. Right, but get in, get out boom.

Speaker 1:

See my workout's two hours.

Speaker 2:

Now am.

Speaker 1:

I going full bore for two hours? No, I'm not. You know, on the heavier lifts I might take a five-minute break in between sets but you're lifting like double the amount of weight Right.

Speaker 1:

So it's all relative, y'all you know, and I guess that's an important thing we're going to talk about it in more detail when we have Coach Pitt here. But it is crazy how I mean I think the other day I did, when I did heavier weights on squats, I think I was doing 475 for five by fives. And you know, yeah, in between those sets I'm going to sit down for four or five minutes. Yeah, I'm going to look at my phone for a minute. I'm going to drink some water, chill, let my heart rate get back down, and then we go in and hit that work again. But that's still if you do five by fives. That's still if you do five by five.

Speaker 1:

That's 25 reps of 475 yeah, bro, I mean that's a lot of damn weight lifting, you know, and and you get a certain type of strong. It may not be that cardio vascular strong like you are, but it's definitely a core strength that like I would be curious.

Speaker 1:

I think one day I should come up and do some jiu-jitsu training with you guys like maybe on a week that I'm taking a week off for deload or I'm not working out for a week, like maybe my trainer's on vacation and I have a whole week of nothing. Maybe I'll come in and do some training now, don't kill me, no, but I would love to come in and like kind of see how that crossover is, because I have a ridiculously strong core and I have ridiculously strong legs and I think it'd be really cool to see, like, how I would fare in some of that stuff because you gotta have strong legs to do jujitsu right.

Speaker 1:

You have a strong core because aren't you kind of is it like grappling where you're?

Speaker 2:

kind of down on the ground a bit. It's grappling, but it's. It uses a lot less muscle than you think really, but I'm not a technique. It's 100 technique, but don't get me wrong, being strong matters and it does help. Dude, it'll be fun, let's do it.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to do anything crazy, but just give me a crash course on jiu-jitsu. Wouldn't that be fun? Yes, all right, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

You heard it here. I'm going to do it.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to get in the ring. Don't kill me now. Okay, I'm old, I'm going to get broke.

Speaker 2:

That's. I ain't looking to have that happen to me. That was bad. I'll take care of you, man.

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