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The concept of "prepping" has undergone a remarkable transformation in recent years. What was once viewed as extreme behavior practiced by fringe groups has evolved into a mainstream approach to self-sufficiency embraced by Americans across the political spectrum.

Eric and Matt dive deep into what truly defines the prepper mindset—not paranoia about doomsday, but a practical desire for self-reliance. As they expertly frame it, "A prepper is someone who doesn't want to rely on someone else for their safety and security." This fundamental shift reflects growing awareness that being prepared isn't excessive; it's responsible.

We explore how preparedness culture has been commercialized, making it more accessible to average Americans. From freeze-dried food systems that maintain nutritional value for decades to turnkey backup power solutions, the industry has adapted to America's "have-it-now" lifestyle. Yet beneath this commercialization lies a return to traditional American values—the self-sufficiency that was once standard practice for families who preserved their own food and maintained household resilience.

The conversation moves beyond just food storage to examine comprehensive preparedness strategies including backup power options (from diesel generators to using electric vehicles as home batteries), medical supplies (statistically more likely to be needed than weapons), and the importance of knowledge alongside equipment. As newer homes are being built with larger pantries and preparedness communities flourish online, it's clear the cultural shift is permanent.

Whether you're new to preparedness or a seasoned veteran, this episode offers valuable perspective on building capability without extremism. Because when uncertainty strikes—whether a three-day power outage or something more profound—those who have taken steps toward self-reliance will face it with confidence rather than fear. Ready to start or enhance your preparedness journey? This conversation shows exactly why there's never been a better time.

Speaker 1:

Welcome back everybody. This is Eric and Matt and this is Life, liberty and the Pursuit, your beacon of freedom and the American way of life. Tune in every Monday for a new episode as we dive into the world of liberty and what makes our country great.

Speaker 2:

All right boys and girls, welcome back. This is Eric and Matt here with Life, liberty and the Pursuit. Your home for all things. Freedom in a world gone mad. Baby, here we are.

Speaker 3:

And today we will definitely be talking about a subject that is good for the world gone mad.

Speaker 2:

I think so. I think so, or maybe it's what's making us go mad, who knows?

Speaker 3:

This is true.

Speaker 2:

We're going to be talking a little bit about the mindset of the prepper. What puts a person in the mindset of preparedness, the prepper mindset. When we say prepper, what are we really referring to? When we say prepper, define prepper, matt, what do you think a prepper is?

Speaker 3:

And I think prepper is relative, to like when you said hey, how do I define prepper? I define prepper as somebody that is prepared, they go out of their way to just be a little bit more knowledgeable in case a disaster happens. Maybe they have some extra supply of food, water, maybe they're taking extra precautions on their everyday life, so that to me, that's what a prepper is Sure, someone that's going the extra mile to understand the. You know the current situation, both with, like, the government and civil unrest, and they know where to go, where not to go, stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

I think that the way I would define prepper in a nutshell is very similar to the way you define it. I would say to, really, I would use your description and then just add on, perhaps, that a prepper is someone who doesn't want to rely on someone else for their safety and security.

Speaker 2:

And there will be such a good add-on yeah so at the end of the day, okay, are there good intention people out there all around the world? Of course there are. There's some bad people and there's good people, and that's what makes us all unique is that some of us are a little bit of both. That's fine, whatever. But the prepper mindset I believe it really gets down to the kind of person who just wants to be self-sufficient Self-sufficiency in your security, self-sufficient in your protecting your belongings, your property, you know, having your food and water and all those sorts of things. So we are going to dive into that subject today and we're going to talk about a bunch of other stuff as well. But it's been a crazy week and I'm looking forward to getting into this conversation. Before we get cracking, I would like to give a shout out to the show's first sponsor, and that is my Patriot Supply. This is actually the perfect sponsor for today's show, because this can get you down the road to getting your preps in order.

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Speaker 2:

So freeze-dried food and we can talk about that a little bit just to kind of piggyback on our sponsor's message there Freeze-dried food, it does keep for a very long time. As they said in the ad, they're 25 years. But the other important thing that I think that it doesn't get talked about enough about freeze-dried food is that freeze-dried food does maintain all of its nutritional value as well. When you process food, like if I take I don't know, I want to pressure can some food or something which is fine, pressure canning is a legitimate strategy and it has its place. But I also am going to degrade that food a little bit when I cook it down like that. All right, when you cook food you degrade the quality and the nutritional value of that food by virtue of cooking. When you freeze dry it, it loses nothing. You reconstitute it and boom, you're there.

Speaker 2:

Especially with something like eggs. I mean, many of you have had freeze dried eggs and probably didn't even know it If you ever served in the military or ate at a military mess hall or a police mess hall or even in a lot of school cafeterias. They use freeze-dried eggs because they keep for a long time. They literally just take this egg powder and they put it in water and they reconstitute it and boom you got scrambled eggs.

Speaker 3:

You just see them moving it around on the top of the little flat top with hot water and then they get all fluffy.

Speaker 2:

Throw some Tabasco sauce on that.

Speaker 3:

mother and man, you got a meal and it ain't bad for the longest time I didn't know. But you can freeze, dry raw meat Like they will actually put like raw steaks. Like you go into like Costco or whatever and you're buying like these big bulk um containers of like ribeyes. People are freeze, drying those raw and then like you have to label them as raw because you still have all this stuff. But like it blew me away, I had no idea that that was a thing.

Speaker 2:

Isn't that wild.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, obviously, if you're going to freeze dry a raw steak, you got to make sure that you label it's raw, because when you, when you thaw it back out, it's going to happen. When you reconstitute, it's still going to be raw. You cook it, but in that wild that it just puts the food into a homeostasis, in a way, like it just stops it.

Speaker 3:

Since we're on the subject and I'm not gonna like stay too long on the subject, but with freeze drying, I think that opened up for a lot of people to get into the whole prepping mentality. Because you can find that there were a really hot commodity. What three years ago, four years ago, like you, they could not keep them in. They were a really hot commodity. What three years ago, four years ago, they couldn't keep them in stock. You'd call up I think it was Harvest Right, harvest Right. You'd call them up and like, oh man, we got a three-month, four-month backlog on machines. These are like $5,000, $10,000 machines. Right, you're talking about the actual machines. Yeah, like the actual freeze-drying machines. They are nice. Yeah, they're like about 5 000 you know the larger ones are 10 000 and they're like, oh, we can't keep them in stock. We have a six month wait list. Well, you know, rick, rick ward, he bought one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean they're, and he loves it. He's always making stuff and he's always giving me like freeze, dried skittles and all kind of treats and things.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's I was gonna say, that's how a lot of people got started and you'll see it. You see, you can actually find for the viewers. You go on facebook marketplace. You can find people selling these machines because they they got them to start making. Can't like businesses, like freeze-dried candy businesses. Yeah, they didn't realize it takes 24 hours per batch because it's a freeze drawings, but there's a lot of profit in that because you can buy bulk skittles and sell a little pack of skittles for 10 bucks and people buy them.

Speaker 3:

So there's people that do that. Like the wrestling tournaments you go to, like you'll see a little booth set up because they're a hundred percent sugar. Like, the wrestlers need that for energy, but they they are now. They're selling them. So you can go on Facebook marketplace and get a used freeze dry machine for like half the price. So if you're, if you're interested to get into the, the whole freeze drying thing, try that out. I think you'll be surprised.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's funny that I'm still working on my kind of little field kitchen I call it a field kitchen, but basically. So I have a side room in my garage and we went through and did a bunch of restoration on it redid the walls, redid the ceiling, put some bright lights in there. Right now I just haven't replaced the counters yet, but I got to put counters in and a few shelves. But I put a stove out there, a gas stove, and I'm going to put an extra refrigerator out there and my plan was to put my dehumidifier out there I'm sorry, my dehydrator is what I meant to say, my meat dehydrator and be able to do jerky and have a freeze-dry machine and do freeze-dried food and basically just use this sort of wing on my garage as sort of a food preparation area and food storage, kind of like a pantry, so to speak. And that way you're not, you know if you're going to run a big batch of pressure-canned food. You know you're not stinking up the house, yeah, or you're processing a deer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're processing a hog or a deer, have a separate place to do that. That's just me talking here. I meant it'd be practical for everybody. Let's get back to the mentality because, yeah, we can talk all day about the things you can buy to prep. That's not really what I want today's show to be about. I really want it to be more about what puts someone in the mentality of wanting to prep in the way that they do. I mean, has society woken up to all of the crazy things that go on in the world? Because it seems that America is such.

Speaker 2:

Americans seem to have their heads in the sand so much, and whether it is the, you know, the rest of the world points their finger at us and they scrutinize us because of the way we live our lifestyle. I mean, I get it. We're a have-it-now lifestyle, right? Americans are have-it-now people, you know. We want to. Oh, we don't want to save up and do that. We'll put it on our credit card and have it now. Or oh, we want to order on Amazon, have it tomorrow. We're a have-it-now society, we're an instant gratification society, and we used to not always be that way.

Speaker 2:

Traditionally, way back in the day, people were much more accountable to their own individual survival as a family. They were required to store food, they were required to preserve their own food, they were required to grow and harvest their own food, hunt their own game. You know. They were much more vested in the actual survival of the family as a family and we've lost track of that now and I think that's interesting, matt, to see that that mentality is kind of coming back. It's just coming back in a way that's much more commercialized than what it was in years past.

Speaker 2:

You know, in years past if you were going to the hardware store, your local grocery store, to pick up some supplies, yeah, you'd pick up your pressure canning jars and your lids and all of your crap you need to do pressure canning.

Speaker 2:

That was just a normal part of your order, was to get the normal things that you would need to preserve your food and all. And people still do that. I mean you can go to the grocery store and go to the canning aisle, especially in the south, mostly in the south. I'm not saying that the grocery stores up north don't have it, but any grocery store in the south, boys and girls, that you go to, is going to have a canning area and it's got all the different ball jars, all jars and things and so but there was a point y'all that that was very normal mainstay, uh type of activity for average family and it would be a family event, everyone would. You know the kids would be chucking the corn and you know mom would be boiling the corn and putting it in the jar and they'd be preserving and making their food together.

Speaker 3:

It was a. It was a huge ordeal and many times it was like a multi-day ordeal, especially, like you know I'll use like in. Especially, like you know I'll use like in. For example, in Italy they do like the whole tomato harvest. They would have to like jar all that tomato sauce because, guess what, no refrigeration Tomatoes need to get harvested. What you didn't sell, you had to do something with. You couldn't just let them rot. So a lot of it came out of just the necessity to not have anything go to waste. Yeah, and that even to this day, that's what it's used for. So you're like, hey, think about what's in your refrigerator right now. You know leftovers things. You you know you're not going to throw it away, so instead, now you're just I think that was probably the first form of meal prepping You're like, hey, you're going to meal prep for the prep for the.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, crack open a jar and you got some sauce. I mean, dude, I've been making so much freaking pasta sauce, it's not even funny.

Speaker 2:

My girlfriend's vegetarian and she loves pasta sauce and I make it with fresh roman tomato nice all like like a little italian grandma on there, just really, and I love to cook, so for me I'm always making lots of sauce and stuff and there's nothing better than homemade sauce. It's just so great. But you know, I'm thinking the entire time I'm making the sauce. I'm like man, I could pressure, can this sauce and just have a whole bunch. I could make a huge batch.

Speaker 2:

Bessie, she likes to have it fresh and there is something like in you know, down in Brazil they eat hot dogs a heck of a lot different than we do. Are you familiar with the way Brazilians eat hot dogs? Look, it's, it's, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna lie, it was kind of strange at first. But like they'll use like a big old sub roll and they'll put the hot dog on it and in her case, of vegetarian hot dog, but a hot dog, Okay, but look, okay, it's a hot dog. But then they'll put like pasta sauce on it, Like like you would on like spaghetti.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It's a sauce, right. They put pasta sauce on it and they put like the uh, sometimes I'll put ketchup on there and they put peas, you know, like canned peas and canned corn, and they put those. You know those little, uh, potato crispy things. You get a little potato sticks. They put like potato sticks on there and that's how they eat their hot dogs.

Speaker 3:

Brazilians chime in. Is that a thing I'm curious?

Speaker 2:

Bro, it's a thing. And look, she puts ketchup on pizza. Well, okay, I mean like, and at first I thought that was such a strange thing, but then I tried it. I was like, okay, like it ain't so bad, I'll put ketchup on eggs. Do you all put ketchup on pizza? Let us know down in the comment section.

Speaker 2:

You know, it's just wild to see that there's so many different ways of doing things and there's so many different viewpoints, and that's one of the interesting things about food in general. It's like there's so many different ways to skin a cat, so to speak. Maybe not literally, but in prepping it's kind of like that, like everyone has their own version of how they do it, their mentality and getting into the mentality of it. Uh, I know we kind of discussed some things about the past and why people have done it in the past, but all right, I mentioned before uh, getting back to my original thought was that we, um, you know, have made prepping such this like commercialized thing now, versus in the past.

Speaker 2:

It was just a way of life, life, it was just kind of part of the way you would do things. It wasn't super commercialized, it was just the way things were. And now it seems that there's this entire industry that's built around. Oh yeah, you see these fancy campers that are um, I noticed I saw some that were they're touted as like these bug out campers that have all the food storage and you know, you can hook it up and then bug out and leave.

Speaker 3:

I mean that's smart, I suppose, like a bougie glamping bug out thing where a high-end trailer like off-road wheels I went down the rabbit hole in that like a couple years ago and there's like it is an industry, because they were like oh, these have independent suspension and they're made for road tires. Bro, that's a 20,000-pound camper. How off-road are you going to take a 27-foot 20,000-pound camper? You can call it off-road all you want, you ain't going off-road with that thing. And then come to find out you can't have a big enough truck. You can, you can, but I mean you're pulling 20,000 pounds dry. And then they're like oh, it's got a 50-pound tank, so you're going to take 20,000 pounds and add water, add gear, like man.

Speaker 3:

It's a little unrealistic, it is an industry and I think what started it was the whole faux farm movement. So when you look on social media, you, all of these people with like faux farms, you walk in. They're they're very pretty and they look nice and they're they're basically people that play farmer. They have, they, they buy a farm, but they're not actually running the farm. They're it's a house but it looks like a farm and but they post on social media like they have all the little like the pastures and the farmhouse and it's like live, laugh, love, like artwork all inside. You know, good point. People kind of get, you know, enamorated with that and they go oh you know, we're gonna start canning, we're gonna start doing all this stuff by all means. If that is what made you have the mentality to start doing it, that's fine, fine. But again, that's part of that industry of like social media influencers with that type of content.

Speaker 2:

And if that's what it takes to put someone in the mentality, then I say it's a positive thing. You know someone who, let's just say, is in suburbia, you know, works a nine to five, has an average job. Maybe they live in a, you know, in a neighborhood and they have a lot of neighbors. They don't have a large yard, they can't really have chickens, they can't really have a huge garden, maybe a small garden like an herb garden. Maybe they're even an apartment dweller and they can only have, let's say, you know, maybe an herb garden on the balcony or something. You know, you're limited in certain situations.

Speaker 2:

You know what you're seeing is, if you look at um, at MPS, and look at some of the house listings, especially for new homes, a lot of newer homes are being built with rather large pantries, large walk-in pantries. Now, I'm not going to say that wasn't always a thing before, because it was, but it seems like not that it's a focal point, but it is certainly something that the builders keep in mind. They're like, wow, like people are storing a lot more food and water, and you notice that these newer houses are being built with considerably larger pantries. And uh, you know cause they figured people are going to want to store some food and I think that it's sensible for someone to consider prepping out the gate. And they think, well, food and water are going to be the first. You know things that I'm going to consider here because logically that makes sense. I mean, you can't survive without food and water. You have to eat, you have to drink and all that sort of thing, and I think that's always going to be the first place that someone looks to.

Speaker 2:

You know, they may not consider firearms and protection, they may not consider medical, they may not consider those things. They may not consider battery backups or generators or those sorts of things. They may just simply consider, hey, got to have food, got to have water. And they thinking, okay, if the power goes down, I can suffer without the AC and heat, I can suffer without running water, whatever that mentality of people. They're kind of thinking, okay, well, maybe things will be back to normal within a week I'll have plenty of food and water. Yeah, it'll be a little uncomfortable but we'll survive. I think that's where most people that that are prepping that kind of fall into that scenario. They're not really worried about power backup. They may not even be gun owners, they may not have a way to protect themselves. They need to have a way to protect themselves. But I think that the prepping industry, the commercialization of prepping it, is a gateway drug to that overall greater prepping mentality of you know, hey, I have all this stuff.

Speaker 2:

I have to protect myself. I need a firearm. You know I need a pistol, shotgun, whatever. I'm obviously a gun guy y'all. So if you have any questions about guns, my channel has a wealth of information for you guys. If you want to learn more about firearms, I'm a great resource for that. But firearms are not the end-all do-all. Look, yeah, firearms make holes in things right, but we also have to plug holes, we have to fix holes, we have to medical supply. So you have a much greater chance of getting hurt than you do having to use a firearm to protect yourself. That's just the reality. We all want to pretend that the world is like John Wick and there's an assassin around every corner, but the truth of the matter is there's a fall or a slip, or you broke your arm or you did. That is much greater reality. Or you got hit in your car and now someone's got a bad wound Like. The likelihood of you being wounded in some everyday tragedy is much greater circumstance that could happen than you need to protect yourself.

Speaker 3:

You flipped your side by side and your passenger went flying. You know like those are. Those are more realistic scenarios. On then you know someone trying to break in and steal your stuff, that your, your food and water and a and a world in scenario. That's like literally the word, the, the last thing, that's. Probably there's a lot of ways to get hurt. Yeah, um, and I would say that you know, you are absolutely correct.

Speaker 3:

Most people that are in that preparedness mentality probably aren't firearms people. We like to believe that because like that they are, because that's our own bias, because that's because we're firearms people. Everybody should have a gun or more than one gun. But realistically, the facts don't lie. Most people in the US don't have firearms and they're not carrying them regularly, and that's okay. You can have plenty of food and resources because I think Eric, you nailed it Most scenarios are going to be short term.

Speaker 3:

You know we like, we like we have this. You know delusion of grandeur, that it's going to be like a world ending event, doomsday, that we're going to be locked in our bunker for years and we need enough supplies to last a year. But more likely than not, it's going to be short term three to five days, maybe a week. Some events have been a little bit longer, but usually the infrastructure will be able to get corrected.

Speaker 3:

But the way that the mentality of the people, I would probably say, within the last four years last four to five years has been drastically different than what it was prior to that. But prior to that, people weren't interested in, you know, having extra food, extra water or even being more knowledgeable on learning about how to filter water or food. Now you can, like I have conversations with people right now and they're very knowledgeable Almost like it surprises me. I'm like, wow, you actually know what you're talking about. That's awesome. It's not necessarily with people right now and they're very, uh, knowledgeable. Almost like it surprises me. I'm like, wow, you actually know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome, it's not necessarily that people weren't into it even five years ago. It's just that those people were kind of considered on the fringe of society and especially there was a huge prepper movement in the 80s and 90s and there would be seminars. And I'm talking like imagine going to a gun show. You know you've been to a gun show before. Oh yeah, imagine going to a gun show, you know you've been to a gun show before.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, imagine going to a gun show, but the entire show is just prepping and all like-minded people get together and they discuss you know prepping and doomsday and all the end of the world and and that's their thing, like they really think that you know, things are going to go so haywire that you're going to have to literally prepare for the worst absolute case. That's not a bad thing to do, I mean. But at the time a lot of people in society were kind of like well, these preparedness people are a little kind of out of their mind. You know, that was just the view they had of them, but it wasn't true. It just meant that they just really were passionate about being, you know, capable, and there's nothing wrong with that being good with firearms being you know capable, and there's nothing wrong with that being good with firearms.

Speaker 2:

Being you know good with medical, at least knowing some good basic medical knowledge and being able to, you know, do basic medical stuff on your own, you know, knowing which plants are toxic and what isn't. You know, knowing how to grow your own food, knowing how to store your own food, having a little bit of a sensibility about water storage, water purification, storing your own food. All of those things are just part of being a well-rounded person who is capable, and I think it's funny how people will always look at the government and they say, oh well, the government is going to be responsible for my safety and if something bad happens, I'm going to turn the radio on and listen to whatever the government tells me to do.

Speaker 2:

Nah, I'm going to turn the radio on and listen to whatever the government tells me to do. Nah, well, if you are trusting the government with that, how hard is it to trust yourself with it? Because the government is comprised of people. You're a person, correct? Why are you going to sit there and place your fate in the hands of someone you don't even know? And you're going to willingly place your fate in that person and go. Well, they're always going to know what to do and I don't have to worry about it because they're going to tell me what to do Versus. Well, why don't you just know what to do? Why don't you just beat them to the punch and not be a liability on their system and not be reliant on their system? And I think that once people come to that fruition and that comes to fruition for them they realize like, wow, there's nothing wrong with being ready. It doesn't make you wild or crazy or weird. And there are people on all sides of the political spectrum who value good preparedness. And there are many people, even on the far left, who are very well prepared. They have lots of guns and medical gear and, believe me, it's not exclusive to one political party or one side of the political equation. There are many people who are always ready, and speaking of being ready, that will get to our next sponsor.

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Speaker 3:

So if we're looking at like the mentality, you know, one of the things that I feel really swayed the general public in changing their mentality and being okay with prepping and getting prepared and learning all these, all these new techniques that they didn't know before, uh really was, uh, the like movies. So if you start looking at like different, I know there's one in particular that came out recently I don't know if you've seen it. It's called homestead, so it's uh, the one of the main characters is the guy that plays buck in band of brothers. Um, so he's like the. He's like a landowner and he owns a huge piece of property and he's super prepared. He was preparing for an event and it's like in the middle, like the you know, he hired a bunch of like sf dudes to like be his personal security if they ever had to like enact and like create and block off the property. Um, and it and it was put out by uh, what is it? Angel studios, which is like a christian studio that creates like christiany type stuff. But this particular movie was actually really good.

Speaker 3:

Um, but like those mainstream movies, they get out there and people watching oh, this is, you know, it's kind of interesting, it's normal, and then also seeing, like some other stuff. There was another one, was it a sound of freedom? Which was about like a true story about sex trafficking, how, like you know, they went to I think it was Colombia and they like rescued all of these girls that were being like trafficked across the world internationally. So when people start looking at all this stuff, like that danger is real, like it's no longer like a fictitious you know danger, like these types of things happen and I know like sex trafficking has nothing to do with um prepping, but it's just the mentality like hey, hey, there's evil out there. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And like it can strike at any time. Yeah Now, be it sex trafficking or you know terroristic, you know events that cause infrastructure to go down, or just you know Natural disasters, disasters, so it happens, but you have to be prepared and that kind of plants those seeds into people's brains like man.

Speaker 2:

I really should be a little bit more prepared it is true, once something becomes mainstream enough for hollywood to pick it up, then you know, okay, now, granted, the studio that produced this movie the homestead movie was was certainly, you know, more probably right wing and and christian sort. You could say that, yeah, and that's okay, but once Hollywood picks up on it, that the eyeballs really start to oh, okay, well, what is this? And I mean, look at, I mean again, I hate to bring up John Wick, but it's crazy, true about John Wick, like I'm not going to say that people didn't know what a staccato was, because they did, but like, like, I mean, how many people went and bought staccatos because they watched john wick use them? Yeah, or bought terran tactical. Now, look, I know terran butler, he's a really good guy, he's smart as hell and he's very good and very knowledgeable what he does. So obviously he's very well equipped to train john wick.

Speaker 2:

Uh, but it's just interesting how these things happen. Like you know, even the scene in the movie where you know we're going to go in and it's like he's going to some fine, you know establishment where he's going to pick out his guns, and you know, all right, well, help me out. What do you have, winston, you know, and then they're going to like go through and get all the random you know tools of his trade and people appeal to that. People love the idea of a hidden room in your house full of crap. There's something about that in our mentality as Americans that it triggers us to think, well, damn, I want a hidden room full of guns and gold and gold coins with skulls on them. And people have that mentality and there's nothing wrong with that. That room can be a real room. It can be a real room that you can own. You can have a hidden room in your house with some firearms and supplies and there's nothing wrong with that?

Speaker 3:

Very, very similar to where we're sitting at right now.

Speaker 2:

And there's nothing wrong with having you know a stash of stuff, and I think there's just something brilliant about that. It's ingrained in American culture. It's ingrained in our mentality as Americans that preparedness is just as much a part of being American as breathing air, Like it's just it's part of who we are. It's just only recently, I think, that people have began to fully understand and appreciate what a lot of those people were doing in the nins, 80s and 90s with the prepping movement.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and now I remember where I was going at with that movie Sound of Freedom when that movie came out. That's what kind of sparked that whole air tag movement of people utilizing air tags to track people, because that's when they're like, oh, we're going to Disney, I'm gonna put an air tag in my child's shoe so that way I can always kind of track and know where my kid is at. That I mean, think about that. That's awesome and having that ability to be able, like to track and know where your child or your loved one is. Maybe you have somebody with you know, a family member with Alzheimer's or dementia, and you put an air tag around their neck like dude, I can tell you someone with alzheimer's or dementia, they're going to walk off on you in a heartbeat, like you it's. It is a second job keeping up with them. So to be able to have that technology where you can keep up with them and know where they're at, that's awesome it's also great to have them on your dogs.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Yep.

Speaker 3:

So I mean just having that technology and those. The movies are kind of what's sparking that movement and that's great. Like, if you can get a form of entertainment but also elicit, you know, positive response in people, that's cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I agree. You know, it's just crazy when you look at the way that the mentality of the prepper has changed over the years and again it has gotten much more commercial. I mean again even our sponsor. We look at my Patriot Supply. They literally make those freeze-dried goods and it's such a palatable and easy thing to just purchase and boom, you're prepping it's easy.

Speaker 3:

It's a bucket. It's literally like a big black bucket with a pop top. Everything is in Mylar bags. It's a bucket. It's literally like a big black bucket with a pop top. Everything is in mylar bags, it's all done for you.

Speaker 2:

And look it does appeal. And again, not to beat a dead horse, but it appeals to the way that Americans are as people and their mentality is like they're a habit now instant gratification. So yeah, if you don't want to have a pantry stocked with dry goods, want to have a pantry stocked with dry goods and say you want to have rice and staple food like rice and beans and dried goods that you you're going to have to prepare them.

Speaker 2:

There are ways that you can just turn a key and have the solution and and it's never been more available in today's society than it ever- has been whereby in in previous years, it would be considerably difficult for you to have a commercial option to just store 90 days of food with the turn of a key and literally just swipe your card and go back to playing golf or playing Minecraft or whatever the hell. You're doing Everything's calculated.

Speaker 3:

It's brilliant. You can say, oh, we need 2000 calories a day per person. Right, you have five people. Now you don't have to go through the logistics of managing each individual meal. Yes, you could do it if you had time. But, like you said, we are instant gratification, and I'm guilty of this too. I order off Amazon. I'm not the kind of guy that's going to not order off Amazon. I love Amazon, I order it. I use same day. So if I can get it the same day, I filter it by oh, same day delivery. I want that one Boom have it now.

Speaker 2:

Why not have it?

Speaker 3:

now, if we can do it, we can do it. I am not a boycott Amazon kind of guy. So it's like you look at preparing all of those meals, you have to have a five-gallon bucket full of dried beans. Well, how long is that going to last you? How do you break that out? How do you multiply that by five? By serving size yeah, got to have water to boil it, prepare it. But I mean, think about how much space that takes up if you're going to do canning. Canning is a lot of space and it's heavy. You better have some shelves, some heavy duty shelves, to hold up all that weight. A lot of space.

Speaker 2:

And you actually have to use the stuff. The problem is, if you let's, let's talk about canning for a second. Ok, pressure canning, canned food All right, canned food is sort of the middle of the line, right. Dry, dried food that is properly stored, like dry beans and rice and things like that. Staples can last a really long time. If they're well stored and in the proper storage conditions, canned food will last a considerably long time. But there is a shelf life. Like canned goods can only last so long they begin to break down. You have a risk of botulism, etc.

Speaker 2:

Now let's look at pressure can stuff like the stuff in the glass jars, like your ball jars with your shredded chicken and beef and pork or whatever. I don't. I don't think people pressure can pork, but whatever meat you're going to pressure can, okay, that's fine too, but you have to use it. It's not just going to sit on that shelf forever and you know, I don't know, 15 years from now I decide I want some shredded chicken from 15 years ago. Am I really going to risk cracking open that jar after 15 years? Will it keep 15 years? Some people say it could. Do you want to risk that? I don't. Does that lid have a little corrosion on it. You're kind of rolling the dice there. So now, if you pressure can something and use it within the first few years, it's going to still taste real fresh, it's going to be good and maybe even within the first five years it's still going to taste just as fresh. But you have to use it. So the thing is it's like you're going to pressure can but then you're going to use that food, okay. Well, that requires you, if you're trying to keep a stock of food, to continue pressure canning. So you have to get into the regimen of okay, I'm using my shredded chicken first in, first out. Right, all right, the oldest chicken gets used first and then we put the new chicken in.

Speaker 2:

So when people have a pantry they have a rotation, a storage rotation First in, first out, just like a grocery store. If you go to your local grocery store especially if it's a busy grocery store that generally sells a decent amount of stuff on a regular basis and you look at the things that are stacked on the shelf and you pull something off and look at the date, the date is going to be closer on the item that's furthest out on the shelf If you look at the one way behind it might have a date. That's a few through three months or maybe six months down the road from the date of the one up front. First in, first out. That's because the old product goes out, the newest product goes in. So when they're stocking they put the new stuff in the back so that they can get all the old stuff out. That's how your pantry is.

Speaker 2:

When you're doing some sort of prepping, especially when you're using canned food, canned food is going to be the exact same way first in, first out. And once you just get yourself into that basic mentality which really Matt even beyond prepping, this is not even a prepping thing. This is just common sense for anyone who would have just a pantry in their home, even if you just have some basic cabinets in your kitchen. You don't have a walk-in pantry with a whole bunch of storage capability, but you just have a basic pantry. Well, you're gonna eat whatever food is, the oldest first and then the. I mean, that's just simple yeah, common sense.

Speaker 3:

That's typically how you do it with leftovers. You open, you open the refrigerator. I'm always like, oh, what did I eat? What's what's the oldest meal in the refrigerator'll eat that first, cause I don't want it to go bad. And then you kind of work the same thing.

Speaker 2:

You work, your, you work your way all the way to the one that you just had last night, you know or if you're anything like me, I look at leftovers and I go I don't want that, I'm gonna feed it the dog, I I'm. You know there are very few feuds foods that I will actually go. Oh my God, I can't wait to have those leftovers, For one is pasta. Pasta is always better the next day, Spaghetti is always better the next day.

Speaker 3:

It's always better. I'm a pizza the next day Kind of guy like pizza I'll do pizza the next day, see the next day it tastes better pizza after maybe two or three days.

Speaker 2:

You know, look, I know people that will take pizza and leave that shit on the counter and that I'm I'm serious. They will leave it on the counter and eat on it for two or three days, even after, without it being refrigerated. It's like you're brave yeah you know, you start looking and thinking I've got a little hair, bro. No man, that's gross. Like some people don't care.

Speaker 2:

But not me, not this guy yeah you know we I know this is gonna sound cringe to some people, but we like to go get those costco cheese pizzas bro, do not sleep on costco cheap.

Speaker 3:

I just ate it yesterday, dude, it's so good those suckers are not bad man.

Speaker 2:

I mean, they really aren't, and you know who, who can, who can not.

Speaker 3:

Like a dollar 50 costco hot dog, now, granted, it's really not that great for you, but damn, if you're eating on a budget, it's cheap dude that's like you, you, you, just you, just like you just said, my lunch yesterday, my lunch yesterday was a costco hot dog combo, because you get the drink in the hot dog for a dollar 50. And then we bought a whole pizza, half cheese, half pepperoni. Get out of here. Yeah, I can't go wrong, man.

Speaker 2:

I mean there's a lot of great deals out there. I guess that does bring up a good point about Costco. You know buying in bulk is always going to be a great way to save money long term, but you've also got to be able to store in bulk properly, and you, you know, not every food container is made uh, equal. Okay, there are food grade containers, so you have to make sure that you have the.

Speaker 3:

the right plastic composition is actually intended for storing food yeah, you don't want to leach that bpa into your food, man got to be bph free and all that.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Well, you have to almost do a little bit of research, especially with the way the economy is now.

Speaker 2:

You have to diversify your assets which is special with the way the economy is now, you have to diversify your assets and I know that's a really foreign thing to a lot of people that are living in this society now. Because so many people are living paycheck to paycheck, life is hard for a lot of folks. Jobs have been kind of hard to deal with. I mean, there's been lots of layoffs, lots of people, lots of companies have been cutting back, and I get that. I understand that people are getting less hours and even just going the simple act of going to the grocery store and buying a week's worth of groceries is so much harder for the average person now than it was even three or four years ago. So I get that. So some people are so ingrained in the day-to-day survival that they don't think, oh, I'll get a gold subscription or I'll invest or I'll do this. But you can start small and work your way up, and I think that's how prepping is too.

Speaker 2:

When we get back to the subject of prepping, you can start small and work your way up. You don't have to go in full Monty and spend a whole bunch of money right out the gate. We've discussed this in some previous shows, matt, but I'll reiterate it here that you can start small. Start out with a few packs of rice here and there a few packs of beans. It doesn't have to be anything crazy, it could even be a case of water. Now I have my views about storing cases of water for long periods of time because the plastic can leach out in the water. But if it's life and death, and you're going to die if you don't have water, I think I'd rather have water with a little plastic in it than not. So bottled water is a cheap and economical option. That is there. I mean, obviously, rotate it out. You know, fresh in, first in, first out, but as wouldn't be my preferred scenario, but it is a potential scenario.

Speaker 3:

I think one of the major issues was that you know it's not good for the water for it to be in heat because, like, the heat kind of breaks down the plastic well. So the big problem was people leaving water bottles in cars in the summertime and then, like, it'll cool down and they'll drink it. So it's not, you're not drinking hot water, but you're drinking water that was hot like 100 something degrees at some point sitting in your car and that kind of opened up the pores of the plastic and you know it's leached into the water.

Speaker 2:

I get it and how do you know that the pallet of water that you picked up off of the grocery store wasn't sitting in the sun at one point? So it's like you really don't have any way of knowing if the quality of that product was controlled from the point it was made to the point it arrived well, you don't.

Speaker 3:

You're absolutely right and I'll give you an example of that. Um, you know, back when I was running ballistic ink, we we sold body armor. So we had like pallets of body armor and one shipment came in and the body armor was soaking wet, like it was on the pallet. It was palletized but it was soaking wet. And I asked the truck driver. I was like hey, why is all this armor wet? It shouldn't be wet Now.

Speaker 3:

Granted, it probably didn't compromise the integrity of it, but I'm not taking that chance. So I had to call up the armor company, say, hey, what's going on? And then the trucking company said, oh, it was sitting outside of the depot for a couple of days in transit, so he just left it sitting out in the open in the rain. So, to your point, you never know If that armor would have arrived dry, I would have never known it was sitting out in the elements. What did they do about it? They took it back. Yeah, I said. Oh, I bet they were pissed. Well, it wasn't there if I was the trucking companies well, I bet they were yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So I just you know, we refused the shipment. They put it back on the truck, took it out because I mean we're not selling that stuff, like come on, man, um, but like again to your point, you never know, you don't have that chain of custody, you don't know what happened with all these shipments.

Speaker 2:

So you know we're on a well here and I tell you so I've been wanting to get a whole house backup generator. Uh, we'll talk a little bit about that backup power. All right, that's something we haven't really dove into. In the subject of prepping, I feel like when you start getting into whole house backup preparation, solar panels, things like that, which I do have solar the amount of solar that I produce here is not enough to run my house at a one-to-one off the grid, which kind of sucks because it costs a lot of money.

Speaker 2:

I'm not even going to even begin to say how much money I spent on the solar, but it's embarrassing to say how much it was. It was a lot and I only produced about 65% of my electricity on site. So that means that if the grid goes down, I still have to have some sort of a backup whole house generator to provide enough power to kick the well pump on to pump water. So even despite having all that solar, I still don't produce enough electricity to kick the well pump on because it requires a high amperage draw to start up. A well pump is kind of one of those items that it requires a huge power drop when it first kicks on and then, once it's on, boom, you're okay. But it has a high amperage startup draw.

Speaker 3:

Could you use a diesel generator to kick started on and then?

Speaker 2:

so they do make whole house diesel generators that are very capable. They're actually very, very good and, um, they're, they're not cheap. I mean, you're, you're talking for a good whole house generator. That's a diesel generator. You're probably looking at about two to twenty five hundred dollars for a good one, for a real good one, maybe closer to four grand. That's a little more capable, you know, maybe a little bit quieter running, a little bit better fuel efficiency in the long term, little things like that. But overall, even the cheaper ones will do quite well. But the, the ones that are like four to $4,500, are the cat's meow. Um, they can be daisy change for more power. So if you need a lot of power for a given household, certain amount of kilowatts hours, you can just daisy chain them together, and a lot of the Hondas are like that too.

Speaker 2:

The inverter generators can be daisy chained. I have a pair of the inverters. No, the little Honda inverters, little red ones, and they do quite well. They run really quiet. They run on gas. Now, you're not going to back up a whole house on the little inverters, but you can certainly get your starlink running, keep your refrigerator running, and I've done that before. Um and uh, when the power's off, you know I'll use the little inverter generator and at least just back up the refrigerator so I have cold drinks and keep my stuff from going bad in the refrigerator. You know, and the starlink doesn't draw a lot of power, so I like to be able to have internet and plus I can charge cell phones and laptops and things on the inverter, so at least keeping yourself informed and keeping your your basic cold goods from going bad. Not so bad. You can power a tv with one if you just want to watch some tv and stream some netflix, yeah, I that's.

Speaker 3:

most of the people in that situation would need it purely just to keep the refrigerator and freezer going, so they don't lose everything in the refrigerator and freezer for the short term.

Speaker 2:

Um man, just for a couple of days. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean you, you could probably get by with five or 10 gallons of fuel for a couple of days. I mean they, they sip, mean they sip fuel.

Speaker 3:

They actually do quite well on fuel, the little hondas, yep so, um, when you mentioned the diesel generators, that's actually 44 to 500, so 4500 and up. That's a drop in the has nothing compared to what you would pay for like a generac. So, like the, the generac, we had one price dot, because we were in an area that lost power consistently. So we were we. But this is before we move, we move. We ended up moving to a different area that didn't lose power so much every time a storm came through. We were looking at a generac and I think for like a 12 kilowatt, like a whole house, 12 kilowatt, dude, it was like 30 grand 30,000?

Speaker 2:

yeah, but 30,000 is a steal compared to what I pay for solar.

Speaker 3:

But it ran off natural gas. So here's the thing with those generators they're natural gas, so it's great because it's instant. It has a little switch in there. As soon as the circuit breaks, it pops on instantly. So you have almost no loss of service. But you are susceptible to infrastructure issues. So what good is it if you know you don't have any infrastructure? If like-, what if the gas isn't flowing? Exactly, there's no gas, there's no generator, you know, and you would say, oh, it's not a problem during like a storm, you're right, it's underground. But what if it's like a earthquake or like or some other event that's going to cause the earthquake?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what if a bomb drops and disrupts the gas line Exactly, or maybe the gas.

Speaker 3:

Well, I hate to think that way, but yeah, but you have to. Or again, like you said, there's no gas in the lines Like what good is it? So a diesel as a backup? Great, if you're looking for those types of situations where you're not worried about infrastructure. If you're looking for those types of situations where you're not worried about infrastructure Price-wise $4,500 is still expensive, but not nearly as much as like yeah, not like a 30K generator.

Speaker 2:

One thing I want to mention too, is that you can get, you can have like these large containers of fuel delivered. One thing I learned just from you know, just being around and knowing how this kind of stuff works is like when you're running like heavy equipment on a job site. You know they require a lot of fuel.

Speaker 2:

You know you don't just have fuel cans in your truck and then fuel up a giant excavator or something right you have a 500 gallon cistern that's brought to the job site and they take these chains and hook up and they pick it up and drop it on the drop site and then when that's empty, you order another one. They bring you a fresh one. Take the empty one, that kind of thing. You're ordering 500 gallons of fuel at a time. Right, you have a fuel pump and you know it draws. You have to have power for the fuel pump, but you know it has a fuel pump. You know it draws. You have to have power for the fuel pump, but you know it has a fuel pump and, yeah, and you and you pump it and you basically have your own little mobile gas station, essentially when you work on a job site and it's usually sold in like 550 gallons at a time.

Speaker 2:

It's a big I know y'all seen them before Big old round cistern with big welded legs with a pump on top. So if you had, let's say, a diesel generator on your property and you wanted to have a substantial amount of fuel on hand for backup, you could have one of those cisterns delivered and have 500 to 550 gallons of fuel on hand, and I'm not going to claim to know what the shelf life for diesel is. But if you have a diesel truck right, remember what we discussed first in, first out. Well, you buy your fuel in the 550 gallon cistern and when?

Speaker 2:

you want to fuel your truck up, you go ahead and use the cistern. Okay, you just use your own cistern and then, when it's empty, you order more, have it swapped out. If there's a disaster, well, guess what? You're not, probably not going to use your truck anyway. Your truck should be full of fuel at all times anyway.

Speaker 2:

So as long as you make sure your truck is full of fuel, whatever amounts in your cistern boom, you can use that for your generator Absolutely. And if you don't use it in your generator, it's not like you're not going to use it in your truck or your tractor or something. So again, that comes down to a greater overall view of preparedness where, yeah, if you have diesel tractor for your homestead, if you have a diesel truck, there's no reason not to have a diesel generator because that fuel, if you buy a 550 gallon cistern of fuel, it's not like it's going to go to waste. You're going to use it in your tractor, you're going to use it in your truck and you're going to have it. Any amount that you have on hand is always going to be fair game for the generator.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and think about I don't drive a diesel, but I know people that do have diesel trucks and they're holding quite a bit of gas. So if you're filling your truck up with a 550 gallon tank, you're going to use it. You're going to use that, cause I mean most trucks like a two, a 250 diesel. You're probably holding what?

Speaker 2:

30 gallons I, I think my truck holds either 28 or 30 gallons pretty close, which is, you know, it's a decent amount. You'd be surprised how quick you can go through some fuel and uh, you know, and my truck gets pretty good mileage. But overall, I mean, especially if you're pulling, if you're hauling, hauling a boat or a camper or something, yeah, I mean you're gonna.

Speaker 2:

I spent four hundred dollars in fuel to get to orlando and back pulling the trailer you got a big camper right, I was a 38 foot, you know class a, um, but yeah, like it was like a few hundred bucks to get down there and a few hundred bucks to get back, and then also I extrapolated that money between you're always gonna have like a tank of fuel that you you blow through while you're there traveling around. So between going down there traveling around and coming back, I spent 400 bucks on fuel but that's nothing compared to the money you save by not staying at a resort right, well, and look, yeah, I mean resorts have their, their perks.

Speaker 2:

I mean resorts are nice. I know in the previous episode we talked about about going to Disney and that's what Matt and I are referring to as my trip to Disney last week. But overall, getting back to the prepping aspect, diesel generators are fantastic. The generacs have their place and all of them, you know, in the inverters that use regular gas, have their place, and I guess it just really all depends on your needs and what you may expect in the future.

Speaker 3:

Well, here's another wild one electric vehicles. Because now I mean, I'm a fan of electric vehicles. I love standard ice motors. You cannot talk me out of hitting that gas pedal and feeling that rumble and the throaty growl and just the grit and that power you feel. I love it. But my wife drives a Tesla and that thing is fast, it's quiet, it's fast, it can go everywhere. We've gone on road trips with it. I know people like oh, you can't go on, you can go on road trips, it's got range, brother, like it will go.

Speaker 2:

They do have decent range.

Speaker 3:

Never had any issues Fast charging, but we also have the ability. There's not from Tesla, but they sell kits where you can actually turn that into a whole house generator. It'll power your house, and I know the electric F-150s come with that ability by default. Yeah, you can plug in straight, like they have a house plug. You can plug in, you can power your house. Well, that's nice, yeah. So I mean, you're sitting on a humongous battery. Why not be able to use it? Right, that's smart. And then again, if you have a solar array, you can use the solar array to charge not your only existing batteries, but then your vehicle, so you can replenish the charge in case that happens. So you get an entirely new battery bank with that vehicle.

Speaker 2:

Did you get the Tesla home charging kit for your car?

Speaker 3:

the fast charger, no. So here's the thing. My wife doesn't drive a lot, we don't need it, we just plug into the regular one. But we live right across from like literally one minute across the street is a bank of superchargers. So when we go on a road trip we go over there, we top it off, boom. Now I mean to install a 220 level two charging station dude a couple hundred bucks, man is nothing. You go to Home Depot, buy it, run it. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to be able to do it. Um, and then boom, you're good.

Speaker 2:

But I mean electric vehicles have their liabilities and their benefits and I think that the benefits outweigh the liabilities. They're definitely cheaper to maintain. You don't have all the mechanical problems that can go wrong. I mean you have brakes and things like any normal car. But overall, unless the battery craps out, there's really not a whole lot that can go wrong with them.

Speaker 3:

Covered by warranty for eight years. Yeah, you have an eight year warranty on the battery.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that's a point of consideration is to consider electric vehicles. You know, again, getting back to the sort of mentality of prepping, you know, and it is so wild to me how it really has become an industry and how a lot of people are really, you know, diving deep into it and it's refreshing to see, because I think people are really waking up to the, the way things are going in the world and how scary things are. And, yeah, there's a lot of uncertainty in the world we live in, like we, we don't know what tomorrow could bring, we don't know what wars could be around the corner, scarcity could be around the corner, and those are all scary things to think about and I think that people are correct to do the right thing and try to be better prepared. Before we finish up the show, I want to give one more shout out to another show sponsor, and that's our friends at Undertaccom.

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Speaker 2:

Those jokers are crazy, ain't they? I mean, it is true, man like it. When you're talking about underwear, you have to just be light-hearted about I mean it's. You're talking about underpants.

Speaker 3:

I mean, it just is what it is it is, but it's something that everybody wears and you got everyone's gotta have under and they under value how important it is. Because, man, let me, let me tell you when you are uncomfortable, when you got the swamp booty, you're just uncomfortable man, so make sure you're preparing properly with the proper amount of under britches.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

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Speaker 2:

That's right, save 20%. Anyway, I think we covered things pretty well and I really wanted this to be more about, you know, kind of the culture of preparedness. You know I think that's what I really want to discuss that I know we discussed some gear and some things and some ideas behind you know prepping, but I think it's just important to realize that you have to put yourself in the mentality of not being complacent and always making sure that you're thinking a step ahead. As long as you do those basic things, you're probably going to be okay.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely, and I think that you know the conversation we had was great. It was less on. You need to buy this, this, this, and you know you need to know this, this and this, but it's more of the, the, the culture and the community, and you know the movement of everybody being comfortable with, being prepared because it's no longer a fringe thing, it is now normal. I agree, it's a normal thing.

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You know, and it's funny too, that we could even draw the same conclusion about gun ownership. You know, gun owners people have become much more accepting of the idea of owning firearms now than they were 10 or 20 years ago, especially, you know, 2020 and on, people had a completely different mentality of, you know, the concept of owning firearms for self-protection and you know we've seen more states become constitutional carry 29. Right, we have 29 states that are constitutional carry now. I think it might even be 30 now.

Speaker 3:

Well, North Carolina is voting on it very soon yeah.

Speaker 2:

So we have more states that are constitutional carry. Now we have, you know, way more people who are becoming armed. You know much more females are deciding to arm themselves. So I think that's all a step in the right direction. That shows that society is pivoting on the issue, and so it's really healthy to see that, in addition to people being more well-prepared. So when you take the complete axiom of preparedness in its entirety and look at it from okay, well, I've got to be able to protect myself with a firearm, but also eat where do those things all sort of collide? I think that the culture is changing.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely, and that's something that you know I'm very happy to see in our lifetime.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, and I hope it only gets better.

Speaker 3:

That's right.

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